Just a comment on the offer of talks from Abe. China need to be sure the dude will not attend the meeting, talk about the weather, and then announce to the press that the talk was a waste of time because the Chinese made unreasonable demands.
Just a comment on the offer of talks from Abe. China need to be sure the dude will not attend the meeting, talk about the weather, and then announce to the press that the talk was a waste of time because the Chinese made unreasonable demands.
PRC can easily make it into a dispute status by filing a complaint to ICJ so why not do it?
A lot of things which are not in Japan's favour are not reported.
The Cairo Declaration is one example. I recalled a particular Japanese diplomatic officer did not know about the CD until he was working in the Japanese FM office. This officer is by the name of 天木直人, a former diplomatic officer to Lebanon.
His statement is broadcasted here, @ 09:34
[video=youtube;ll_10VPEY2w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll_10VPEY2w[/video]
If it is true then, the Japanese govt is guilty of hiding the truth from its own people. The Japanese ppl mostly did not know the CD as well from the street interview shown.
because Bi-Lateral negotiation is how china prefers to settle the border disputes. and this ambiguity is one of the basis of Sino-Japanese diplomatic relations.
It has successfully settled, through bi-lateral negotiations, land borders of all of its neighbors (Russia, Kazakhstan, Vietnam .etc) with exception of india.
multi-lateral settlements usually leads to things like treaty of Versailles which has a good track record of massive mess clean up by a world war later.
Bi-lateral settlements can only occur when both sides agree of a dispute in which this case Japan does not. The main way for PRC to make Japan recognize that there is a dispute is through ICJ or war. Japan's doors are always open for a peaceful solution but I have doubts of PRC's.
Certainly there's a door open but that's more like one only big enough to crawl through. The Japanese ain't interest in any talks other than total submission from the Chinese.
So in effect there's nothing to talk about, as there's absolutely zero common ground to begin with.
Bi-lateral settlements can only occur when both sides agree of a dispute in which this case Japan does not. The main way for PRC to make Japan recognize that there is a dispute is through ICJ or war. Japan's doors are always open for a peaceful solution but I have doubts of PRC's.
The thing is, Jeff.
Abe always said he wants to talk, meet with Xi, FM to FM etc etc.
but the issue is Chinese don't see as "sincere",
Chinese (IMHO, rightly) assess that these talks are just domestic political cover for him , to make his policies look like they are not out of ordinary. His government up and down has refused for a long time to budge on this issue, he has staked enough political capital on this for him to back down. He has offered nothing, no nudge or node towards the direction of "Ambiguity on Sovereignty" that predates the current crisis.
he could very well get his meeting, and in it they could talk about nothing but the weather and still come out look like he is a winner.
for a long time the broad spectrum of opinions in Japan, including the realists in the LDP as well as other political figures in Japan has at least advocated a stable, negotiated relationship with China. and its actual initiatives has for long time been steered by "China Experts" in its MFA and other academic and bureaucratic elites. Now the China policy is a pure politically driven issue, maneuvered by hack nationalist instead of professionals, with the China Expert diplomatic corp reduced to a mere mail delivery corp. delivering protests and official letters.
( I think that ) China has enough back channels with Japanese power structure that a mis-communication on epic proportion would not happen. But give Abe a free political cover? no.
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(little bit OT)
you should really read what Abe has in mind on changing the Japanese Constitution, this is ultimately what he is going after. not only the section on right of collective defense, but on the whole other spectrum of issues...
>>> You are right I.E., it is off topic and not related to the ADIZ. It is also inflamatory and provocative to this discussion. We already closed the thread once because of this. Let's not go back there again. <<<
The fact that a territorial dispute exists between China and Japan is plain for the entire world to see. Only the Abe regime is blind to this fact apparently. That's fine, there is no need to go to war. I'm sure most Japanese people are more reasonable than Mr. Abe. In the latest poll, a majority of Japanese people already disapproves of Abe. Abe can't use the China threat card forever to distract the Japanese people from his poor handling of Fukushima cleanup, from his print more money economic policy that's eroding the people's saving, from his attempt to drag Japan into more international conflicts. I trust that given time, the Japanese people will kick him out of office and elect a more reasonable government with whom China can do business with.