Discussing Biden's Potential China Policy

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Petrolicious88

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voyager1 said:
Yep. But to be honest Japan didn't have much choice.

The US is basically occupying it. No nuclear weapons. No large army, Navy, airforce. No ability to ensure control of raw materials to feed its advanced industry.

Lets be clear, Japan had already lost when they signed the treaty with the US when they lost the WW2. Its a miracle itself that the US let Japan reach such a high economic level.

So, while I regularly call the Japanese, spineless, i understand how they reached that point and the impossibility to avoid this situation.

Hopefully, Japan wont jumb on the China's containment bandwagon because there will not be any benefit for it and if China manages to win the containment then Japan will have a bleak future in front of it.
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Japan always considered itself superior to all other Asian nations. It was the first Asian country to defeat another European power. First Asian country to industrialize. It does not want a dominate China right next to its doorsteps.

The fact that a small island nation with little natural resources became the 2nd largest economic power is absolutely amazing.

You cannot downplay Japan’s technical prowess and their ability to innovate.
 
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Petrolicious88 said:
Japan always considered itself superior to all other Asian nations. It was the first Asian country to defeat another European power. First Asian country to industrialize. It does not want a dominate China right next to its doorsteps.

The fact that a small island nation with little natural resources became the 2nd largest economic power is absolutely amazing.

You cannot downplay Japan’s technical prowess and their ability to innovate.
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Too bad their demographic decline is insane, China has similar demographic problem but it has 10 times more pop than japan and much larger territory
 
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Petrolicious88 said:
Japan always considered itself superior to all other Asian nations. It was the first Asian country to defeat another European power. First Asian country to industrialize. It does not want a dominate China right next to its doorsteps.

The fact that a small island nation with little natural resources became the 2nd largest economic power is absolutely amazing.

You cannot downplay Japan’s technical prowess and their ability to innovate.
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Must be that superior East Asian genes.

(Not that all Asians are smart. Gordon Chang is quite stupid, for example.)
 
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NiuBiDaRen

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Petrolicious88 said:
Japan always considered itself superior to all other Asian nations. It was the first Asian country to defeat another European power. First Asian country to industrialize. It does not want a dominate China right next to its doorsteps.

The fact that a small island nation with little natural resources became the 2nd largest economic power is absolutely amazing.

You cannot downplay Japan’s technical prowess and their ability to innovate.
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Must be that superior East Asian genes.

(Not that all Asians are smart. Gordon Chang is quite stupid, for example.)
 
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Crang said:
Must be that superior East Asian genes.

(Not that all Asians are smart. Gordon Chang is quite stupid, for example.)
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I'd say it is more due to the Confucian cultural background.

Things like reverence for education, high savings and delayed gratification, meritocracy, teamwork, etc

You see the same characteristics elsewhere in China, Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, Hong Kong.

In all these places, it results in high levels of spending on infrastructure and technology R&D.
 
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gelgoog

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Japan had two industrialization stages early on. There was the late Tokugawa period where they tried to reproduce Western weapon systems and then there was the Meiji Era. I think Qing China did a similar modernization to the late Tokugawa period one, but the Meiji era type of modernization simply did not happen. Also China did its modernizations much later.
 
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