Discussing Biden's Potential China Policy

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ChongqingHotPot92

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The US and the West are seriously deluded. China needs to deliver them a shock treatment in order to wake them up (and their puppets)

I suggest detonating 6 nuclear warheads on the edge of South China Sea, East China Sea, and in the Pacific Ocean, when China would start the Taiwan unification process

No need to hit anything, just detonate them at the middle of the ocean. IMO this would send a strong message to the West to not underestimate China's willingless to take back Taiwan
China should NEVER start a nuclear war and should always maintain no first use. However, it MUST reach parity (if not slightly surpass) in ICBM numbers, warheads, yield, and variety in delivery methods with not just the US, but also Russia. It must also develop the ABM capabilities (extremely urgent) to intercept India's Agni series ballistic missiles and destroy its small nuke arsenal with standoff precision weapons. It is also why I have always argues that China should develop small-sized standoff cruise missile akin to the JASSM-ER (but capable of carrying both conventional and low-yield nuclear warheads like neutron bombs) that can be launched from fighter-sized platforms like J-16 and J-20. Only then would China be in a position to take on Taiwan and India in a two-front conventional war (and deter the US from escalating into nuclear).
(If you want to deliver a shock treatment to the Anglos, maybe carpet bomb Dharamshala and its inhabitants (His Holiness included) with thermobaric ordinances, since the Anglos have such a fetish for Tibet. Make them hurt and feel powerless by deliberately brutalizing whom they fetishize yet incapable of defending. Then publicly humiliate them by calling out their unwillingness for to defend the Tibetan gov't in exile as an example of their small MUTE...)
 

AssassinsMace

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The Western news media likes to throw everything including the kitchen sink to see if anything sticks and then when none of it works, they go back to being civilized... China shouldn't have threw Trump a bone with the phase one deal. What did China get from it? Nothing that I know of except maybe staving off Trump from saving face and do something stupid that will cost the US dearly. Like I've said that China just being simply a large consumer market has the West scared of doing a lot of things against China.
 

horse

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The Western news media likes to throw everything including the kitchen sink to see if anything sticks and then when none of it works, they go back to being civilized... China shouldn't have threw Trump a bone with the phase one deal. What did China get from it? Nothing that I know of except maybe staving off Trump from saving face and do something stupid that will cost the US dearly. Like I've said that China just being simply a large consumer market has the West scared of doing a lot of things against China.

China did not exactly lose anything either.

China played along.

With the trade war, the tariffs hurt the Wal-Mart shopper in America. With Chinese trade volume increasing, including with the United States at record levels, China gained irrespective of the trade war.

With the tech war, the only measurable result is Huawei sold less phones, while the other Chinese companies sold more phones. The net effect is a wash for China.

Then when we consider that Huawei Harmony O/S has really gained traction to a solid number #3 in the world in terms of active users, and probably will over take Apple iOS in a couple of years, and with the semiconductor restrictions, that urgency truly kicked started the entire IC effort inside China, this looks like a debacle.

In the trade war, China traded or gave away nothing. In return, the temporary displacements of Huawei and SMIC, in effect are traded for permanent gains, in Harmony OS (which realistically no one would have thought if it took off or not, as Huawei was happy being a part of Google Adroid), and China actually does buildup China 2025 in IC. The short term the phones move laterally inside China. The long term Huawei has their own cell phone OS which is probably more valuable than just the phones. SMIC and China IC industry rises, and will sell into the China market at the expense of the current American suppliers.

As President Trump said, this is a bad deal.

Besides these material gains coming soon in the next few quarters, what China also gained from this trade war and tech war is credibility as a major economic, technological force, and reliable partner in commerce. China did not go around the world whacking everyone with a tariff.

As far as China is concern, white supremacy works.

White supremacy believes China cannot do it without help from Western nations. CCP believes otherwise, goes ahead and does it, unimpeded, because white supremacy already had dismissed that possibility of China succeeding on its own.

Although this is just my view of the world, I find it truly amazing. The Chinese Communist Party used white supremacy as an ideological weapon against Western nations. It is sort of like one of the 36 Tricks, cross the ocean or something in full view.

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gelgoog

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The Huawei phones used chips by HiSilicon, the most expensive component, a lot of the replacements are using chips by US Qualcomm, some Taiwan MediaTek. Apple iPhone also increased in market share after Huawei ban. It was a major US anti-competitive move and China should retaliate eventually.
 

4Runner

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As far as China is concern, white supremacy works.
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I echo your thesis and sentiment here. Though I would not attribute the whole trade war to white supremacy. I have overcome the victim mentality long time ago. Even though I never forget that part of history from Qian Long to 1949, I do think that what US is suffering is what China has suffered many times over: hubris of an empire. That includes not only the ruling class, a.k.a. elites, but also the mass that enjoy the ride through the peek. Just trying to make my point, I met quite a few African Americans as well as Hispanics who were very arrogant toward ethnic Chinese here in America for NO reasons. My take is that those people, however they cry for justice on treatments from some white people, they sometimes do the same sh*t to ethnic Chinese here in the states. US is actually leaning toward far left for a long time. Some Democrats are as racist as some Republicans, if not more so. This is a heavy topic to me. I am going to bed now.
 

styx

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I want to say something to Biden... Rome Fallen 200 years after its most dangerous external "great power competitor" (the parthian empire) fallen apart. If you don't want to fall you have to watch yourself. No Way that China will not be a "great empire" because it is in its people will (no demographics, no economic decline, no aukus etc can stop them) , i can't say the same about afro americans or latinos or asian americans or about white trash that votes trump.
 
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