Discussing Biden's Potential China Policy

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Hendrik_2000

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China retaliate the Hongkog sanction and sanction Wilbur Ross about time what take them so long?
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China retaliates with sanctions on former U.S. commerce secretary Ross, others​


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Tony Munroe and Michael Martina
Fri, July 23, 2021, 9:53 AM


By Tony Munroe and Michael Martina
BEIJING/WASHINGTON (Reuters) -China said on Friday that it has imposed counter-sanctions on U.S. individuals including former U.S. commerce secretary Wilbur Ross in response to U.S. sanctions on Chinese officials in Hong Kong.
The sanctions are the first imposed by China under its new anti-foreign sanction law, passed in June, and come days before U.S. Deputy Secretary of State Wendy Sherman is due to visit China amid deeply strained ties.
China also imposed unspecified "reciprocal counter-sanctions" on current and former representatives of a range of organisations, including the Congressional-Executive Commission on China and the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission.

Other institutions named included the National Democratic Institute for International Affairs, the International Republican Institute, Human Rights Watch (HRW), and the Washington-based Hong Kong Democracy Council.
"The U.S. side concocted the so-called Hong Kong business advisory, baselessly smeared Hong Kong's commercial environment, and illegally sanctioned Chinese officials in Hong Kong," China's Foreign Ministry said in a statement.
"These actions seriously violated international law and the basic principles of international relations, and seriously interfered in China's internal affairs," the ministry said.

The White House and State Department did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the latest Chinese measures, which came after Washington imposed sanctions last week on more Chinese officials over Beijing's crackdown on democracy in Hong Kong.
The U.S. government last week also warned of a deteriorating business conditions in the former British colony that return to Chinese control in 1997.Ross could not be immediately reached for comment.

It was the second time this year that China has imposed sanctions on officials who served under former President Donald Trump, who adopted a tough line on Beijing and confronted it over trade, business practices, human rights and other issues.
Around the time Biden was sworn in as president in January, China announced sanctions against outgoing Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and 27 other top Trump officials. The Biden administration called that move "unproductive and cynical."
Human Rights Watch's China director Sophie Richardson, who was sanctioned by China by name on Friday, called the move "hollow."

"These are diplomatic tantrums that are designed to distract attention away from Beijing's complicity in crimes against humanity," she said, referring to China's alleged human rights abuses in its western region of Xinjiang. China has dismissed the accusations.
(Reporting by Tony Munroe in Beijing and Michael Martina, David Shepardson, David Brunnstrom, and Karen Freifeld in Washington; Editing by Kevin Liffey, Peter Graff and Andrew Heavens)

Here is the rest of the gang that got sanction 2 can play the game
  • Former Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross
  • U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Committee chair Carolyn Bartholomew
  • Congressional-Executive Commission on China former staff director Jonathan Stivers
  • National Democratic Institute's DoYun Kim
  • International Republican Institute associate director Adam King
  • Human Rights Watch China director Sophie Richardson
  • The Hong Kong Democracy Council
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Jake Sullivan, Biden’s National Security Advisor, who was bullish on Libyan and Syrian military interventionism, is a major proponent of “rescuing” and “reclaiming” American exceptionalism, that delusion that has delivered much of our modern woes. He recently named as one of his goals “to rally our allies to combat corruption and kleptocracy and to hold systems of authoritarian capitalism accountable for greater transparency and participation in a rules-based system.” In translation it means “smearing adversaries and recalcitrant leaders of allied countries with accusations of corruption and kleptocracy”, a form of not so gentle pressure aimed at isolating China and Russia and all those who insist on cooperating with them.
In a bizarre interview he gave in October 2019 Jake Sullivan discussed how the US needed a clear threat to rally the world and play the role of saviour of mankind, a threat akin to an alien invasion (!) and then added that climate change, a disease, the possibility of terrorists getting their hands on weapons of mass destruction, or a global economic depression could provide the US with that needed impetus. But then he admitted that it was all too abstract and China could be that organizing principle for US foreign policy. The problem, according to him in 2019, is that people don’t believe that China is a threat, their view of China is too positive and the US would need a “Pearl Harbour moment” or a 9/11, a real focusing event to change their mind, something that in his words “would scare the hell out of the American people”. Realising that he had said too much, he hurriedly added that he personally didn’t like this prospect but one shouldn’t dismiss the worrying reports coming from the intelligence community about Chinese infiltration and interference in the US. (4)

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Bellum_Romanum

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Jake Sullivan, Biden’s National Security Advisor, who was bullish on Libyan and Syrian military interventionism, is a major proponent of “rescuing” and “reclaiming” American exceptionalism, that delusion that has delivered much of our modern woes. He recently named as one of his goals “to rally our allies to combat corruption and kleptocracy and to hold systems of authoritarian capitalism accountable for greater transparency and participation in a rules-based system.” In translation it means “smearing adversaries and recalcitrant leaders of allied countries with accusations of corruption and kleptocracy”, a form of not so gentle pressure aimed at isolating China and Russia and all those who insist on cooperating with them.
In a bizarre interview he gave in October 2019 Jake Sullivan discussed how the US needed a clear threat to rally the world and play the role of saviour of mankind, a threat akin to an alien invasion (!) and then added that climate change, a disease, the possibility of terrorists getting their hands on weapons of mass destruction, or a global economic depression could provide the US with that needed impetus. But then he admitted that it was all too abstract and China could be that organizing principle for US foreign policy. The problem, according to him in 2019, is that people don’t believe that China is a threat, their view of China is too positive and the US would need a “Pearl Harbour moment” or a 9/11, a real focusing event to change their mind, something that in his words “would scare the hell out of the American people”. Realising that he had said too much, he hurriedly added that he personally didn’t like this prospect but one shouldn’t dismiss the worrying reports coming from the intelligence community about Chinese infiltration and interference in the US. (4)

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Which makes Jake Sullivan's statement a cannon fodder for conspiratorial talk such as the idea of planting a virus in Wuhan during the military games back in October 2019. The Americans have been rumored to have even called it's own President (Kennedy) just to keep the war in Vietnam going so it's not in the realm of impossibility or even inconceivable that the U.S. isn't capable of perpetrating such despicable act just so it can ignite it's grand strategy against China.
 

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Which makes Jake Sullivan's statement a cannon fodder for conspiratorial talk such as the idea of planting a virus in Wuhan during the military games back in October 2019. The Americans have been rumored to have even called it's own President (Kennedy) just to keep the war in Vietnam going so it's not in the realm of impossibility or even inconceivable that the U.S. isn't capable of perpetrating such despicable act just so it can ignite it's grand strategy against China.
Thing is, that interview with J. Sullivan and that statement is nowhere to be found on the internet. The article just mentioned he said it in some 2019 Interview but doesn't provide a link or a name of the media that housed the interview. How to know/prove it happened?
 

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Jake Sullivan, Biden’s National Security Advisor, who was bullish on Libyan and Syrian military interventionism, is a major proponent of “rescuing” and “reclaiming” American exceptionalism, that delusion that has delivered much of our modern woes. He recently named as one of his goals “to rally our allies to combat corruption and kleptocracy and to hold systems of authoritarian capitalism accountable for greater transparency and participation in a rules-based system.” In translation it means “smearing adversaries and recalcitrant leaders of allied countries with accusations of corruption and kleptocracy”, a form of not so gentle pressure aimed at isolating China and Russia and all those who insist on cooperating with them.
In a bizarre interview he gave in October 2019 Jake Sullivan discussed how the US needed a clear threat to rally the world and play the role of saviour of mankind, a threat akin to an alien invasion (!) and then added that climate change, a disease, the possibility of terrorists getting their hands on weapons of mass destruction, or a global economic depression could provide the US with that needed impetus. But then he admitted that it was all too abstract and China could be that organizing principle for US foreign policy. The problem, according to him in 2019, is that people don’t believe that China is a threat, their view of China is too positive and the US would need a “Pearl Harbour moment” or a 9/11, a real focusing event to change their mind, something that in his words “would scare the hell out of the American people”. Realising that he had said too much, he hurriedly added that he personally didn’t like this prospect but one shouldn’t dismiss the worrying reports coming from the intelligence community about Chinese infiltration and interference in the US. (4)

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If Sullivan was counting on superior anglo american governance to handle a pandemic, it clearly became obvious that all those studies he was relying on turned out to be BS.
Cue the infamous pandemic preparedness statistic in 2019.

If anything, the US was found to be lacking in leadership and it was instead China which stepped up and provided leadership for the rest of humanity.
No wonder the anglos are hysterical and wanting a new world war, it's their trump card to still maintaining hegemony.
 

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Because how can the US bomb other countries under the guise of democracy if they can't claim to be the ultimate guardian of democracy. They don't want China using it against them, do they?
 

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