Discussing Biden's Potential China Policy

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emblem21

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I don't think so, his moves in Korea and Japan are pretty telling
Those two nations are going to have to make some very difficult decisions in the future, given that there are two nations that can easily wipe them out if they even lay a peep about their support for America. Really frightening that if these two nations keep on ribbing China about human rights and driving them into a corner, one must wonder what will happen if China no longer exercises restraint
 

emblem21

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Perfect post, applause!

The West doesn't want a negotiation of win-win with 50-50, 50% benefit to US and 50% benefit to China

The US wants only 100-0, 100% to US and 0% to China.

China thinks that for repeatedly calling for talks and negotiations makes it look like a responsible and grown up country. WRONG!
The US, and the West in general, see that as China being WEAK.

Now, China ofc is not losing anything if they waste US' valuable time with talking year by year lol

So if China wants to keep up the game, then I dont see why they should stop now. Xi can keep talking about "win-win", cooperation with the US, friendly negotiations with the US etc., because this is "free" for him. China wont lose anything if it keeps talking and talking forever. As they say, "talk is cheap"
In this way, Xi can stall out long enough for all the issues in the USA to begin really unravelling and thus no waste their strength until a better time. Right now the longer Biden continues on this path with out any tangible result, the more the situation deteriorates, to the point where the media can no longer hide the damage. China is simply giving the USA a easy way out, a way out that American cannot tolerate because they want that win at the expense of others. Oh well, sooner or later when they really want a deal, it will be when the USA cannot exist as a nation so really China is right not to make overtly aggressive moves until everything is in place
 

advill

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It is gross ignorance to think that any side could have an absolutes win in any negotiation. Both sides have their “game plans”. Rhetorics & threats are relatively common, BUT professional and experienced negotiators would keep their cool. If nothing can be agreed, just walk away. However, when new and reasonable proposals are made, after careful study, consideration could be made to return to the negotiation table. Cross-cultural negotiation is never easy but possible for experienced professionals and diplomats. Being angry, losing tempers & hurling insults by either side are just letting of steam, but in the final analysis nothing can be achieved. A good example of a very Serious War Situation averted was the “Cuban Missile Crisis” .....Both US & Russia was at the brink of a Nuclear War. US President Kennedy & USSR Chairman Kruschev finally agreed with a compromise solution: The USSR would remove their then recently deployed nuclear ☢️ missiles from Cuba (aimed at US), and US would reciprocate by removing the nuclear ☢️ warheads from Turkey (aimed at USSR). Through compromise negotiation A Nuclear War was averted.
 

voyager1

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Rhetorics & threats are relatively common
Yes. But the rhetoric coming from the US has passed any previously common standard.

The rhetoric from US has been raised to such a level that in a few years the US pop would believe that China is Nazi Germany version 2.

This is not normal, and not common. And they keep spreading their rhetoric to all over the world. IMO this constitutes an active attack against China
 

AssassinsMace

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So far what the US has been doing is manipulating allies to go along with their anti-China plans that result in their worsening relations with China then the US hits them with trade disputes because they can't easily go back to China and they're trapped having to submit to the US. And the US hasn't really helped these countries offset their losses from China.
 

emblem21

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So far what the US has been doing is manipulating allies to go along with their anti-China plans that result in their worsening relations with China then the US hits them with trade disputes because they can't easily go back to China and they're trapped having to submit to the US. And the US hasn't really helped these countries offset their losses from China.
You know the situation doesn’t seem to be much like an allies of equals but rather a slave and master relationship. The only interesting thing is how much better things would be when the master finally croaks in their sleep...
 
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AssassinsMace

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That's because the US is probably getting into that territory where if they don't sell to China they don't make enough money to survive. Also they probably make it in China and production will be in doubt because going somewhere else will cost them even more on top of no money from China as a customer. The US trying to figure out how can they make money from China but China gets nothing out of it. It's called slavery. Just call it something else and its not it.
 
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