Decline of Japan Thread

gadgetcool5

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I don't understand this part. You don't code for the CPU, unless you are doing real time embedded application. You develop in high level language and then compile the code to run on the CPU. Thus I can take a code written for Wintel PC and compile it for ARM based iOS or Android, or even RISC V.

Yes but you need a different compiler to change your Wintel PC code into iOS, Android or RISC V. x86 compatible (or more broadly IBM compatible) means the same compiler used to translate code for the CPU on one machine can talk to any other "compatible" machine without being recompiled.
 

Mcsweeney

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They did make live very miserable for China between 1894 and 1945. Only strength will safeguard us from the horror we suffered in the past. The bloodthirst of those Imperial Japanese soldiers made them a nightmare for civilian populations. Everywhere they went men, women and children where killed and raped. I say good lord that we live to witness a declining Japan.

Yes, I get this. The Nanjing Massacre and Unit 731 were horrible and worse than anything the Nazis did, but I don't think it does Chinese any good to blame the modern day Japanese for the actions of their ancestors. More than ever, the countries in asia need to put aside their differences and work together against Western imperialism. Instead of being angry about war crimes of the past, Chinese should just build up the country to be so powerful that something like that can never happen again.

By the way, talking about operating systems, I listened to a super interesting and informative podcast about how the world would have been better off if Microsoft never existed. They basically set back the progress of computer tech by a decade by commercializing the intellectual property of operating systems and suppressing open code software:

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Tam

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Yes but you need a different compiler to change your Wintel PC code into iOS, Android or RISC V. x86 compatible (or more broadly IBM compatible) means the same compiler used to translate code for the CPU on one machine can talk to any other "compatible" machine without being recompiled.

That's not a hard thing to do, and such tools exist. Not only that, they talk the Windows API calls and map them into similar iOS and Android calls, and whatever is lacking on iOS or Android, its replicated by adding a library. Its better when right from the beginning, the software is planned to be cross CPU and cross OS platform, which means even from the planning stages for your own application, you need to avoid CPU and OS specific or exclusive functions.

You can take an application like WPS Office, which is by Kingsoft, located in Zhuhai, and it has versions for Windows, for Android, for iOS, and for Linux. Not to mention as we expect, Chinese OSes and home grown Linux distros like Kylin and Neo-Kylin.
 

broadsword

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I got a weird DM from the OP a long page rant starting off with how he feels compelled to share with me from his bottom of his heart that China is making one strategic mistake after another and how its the end of China and that Xi and Huawei CEO didn't listen to him and now they are suffering etc etc etc.... Did this guy have a bad history here or what happened?

He was very emotional about China being contained, but has been trying to adjust to the confines of the forum. Let him live on.
 

jimmyjames30x30

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Is this thread necessary?
I belive taking only the semiconductor industry as variable to paint the whole nation is simply absurd and meaningless.

I guess there are value to closely examine Japan in a comparison study with the rise of China. As a former "challenger" power to the existing superpower (the USA), Japan has a lot of important similarities as well as differences to China. We can learn from the experience of Japan to know what strategic traps China should avoid, as well as what strategic vulnerability Japan had that China could also have. We can also explore what Japan could have done better in their rivalry with the USA, which China could try. There are a lot to learn from the experience of Japan.
 

jimmyjames30x30

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Is this thread necessary?
I belive taking only the semiconductor industry as variable to paint the whole nation is simply absurd and meaningless.

I, for one, have enjoyed a lot of talks with my friends about contemporary Japan, and about the near and long term implications of a lot decisions the Japanese leaderships have made. This is a very traditionally Chinese thing to do. The Confucius tradition of writing Confucian style Court-centered History, which is basically a systematic study chronologically on what important decision the Imperial Court of a dynasty has made, why they made those decisions, and what implications and consequences those had.

For example, I myself think that the Russo-Japanese War a huge strategic mistake for Japan. This made the Anglo-Japanese Alliance too much of a bargain for the British, at the cost of a lot of missed opportunities to the Japanese, a vacuum of power in Manchuria and has alarmed the US much too early of an "rising Japanese threat".
Sure, a lot of Japanese people I've talked to talk about the boost of national morale to Japan. In fact, even from the point of view of a nationalistic Chinese, the Japanese victory over Russians were extremely encouraging. It is a great event for all non-White-European people. However, in the long run, is it really to the interest of Japan?

You probably has much more insight into this than I do. What do you think?
 

ansy1968

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I, for one, have enjoyed a lot of talks with my friends about contemporary Japan, and about the near and long term implications of a lot decisions the Japanese leaderships have made. This is a very traditionally Chinese thing to do. The Confucius tradition of writing Confucian style Court-centered History, which is basically a systematic study chronologically on what important decision the Imperial Court of a dynasty has made, why they made those decisions, and what implications and consequences those had.

For example, I myself think that the Russo-Japanese War a huge strategic mistake for Japan. This made the Anglo-Japanese Alliance too much of a bargain for the British, at the cost of a lot of missed opportunities to the Japanese, a vacuum of power in Manchuria and has alarmed the US much too early of an "rising Japanese threat".
Sure, a lot of Japanese people I've talked to talk about the boost of national morale to Japan. In fact, even from the point of view of a nationalistic Chinese, the Japanese victory over Russians were extremely encouraging. It is a great event for all non-White-European people. However, in the long run, is it really to the interest of Japan?

You probably has much more insight into this than I do. What do you think?
hi jimmyjames30x30

The present US-JAPAN tie up is the same strategic mistake, I may not speak for Japan, but for someone from the outside looking in IT INHIBIT JAPAN from pursuing it OWNED IDENTITY and SOVEREIGNTY. There is a fear in JAPANESE POLITICAL elite of a strong CHINA and are willing to be a subservient to US.

SAMURAI BLUE, may I ask you opinion. PREmier ABE was elected on changing the CONSTITUTION and be a normal country (which it should) , is there any news. From my way of thinking is that PREMIER ABE use the US ALLIANCE to achieve that, and assure the AMERICAN of its good intention . In TRUMP he know that he can achieve it, PREMIER ABE is a NATIONALIST, he will not sell out his country.
 

gadgetcool5

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@gadgetcool5

I hope to hear from you about Huawei's Harmony OS, its compatibility with Android and how end-users can run Android apps, in a more appropriate thread.

I understand. Harmony OS was definitely on the right path, but there are talks now that Huawei is going to give its handset business to Samsung in exchange for chips for its 5G base stations. If that happens I wonder who will support Harmony OS. IMO this is a project that China cannot allow to lapse. It must be supported via other companies too if necessary.
 
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