CV-17 Shandong (002 carrier) Thread I ...News, Views and operations


sinophilia

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PLA Navy has a long way to go before it can catch up to India's navy according to Indians.

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Nothing better than waking up to a nice Indian >level 9000 toxic comment.

In all seriousness, I think my quality of life has decreased having even known about these people. I wonder if we would all be healthier and happier if we just didn't talk about them anymore.
 

Bltizo

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Okay, it seems like my previous moderator comment was not specific enough.

All further discussion, remarks and posts regarding that particular tweet, will be deleted. We've all said our part. Now stop.
 

Richard Santos

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PLA Navy has a long way to go before it can catch up to India's navy according to Indians.

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Mainly in terms of how impressive is the number of foreign vendors required to help almost, but still not quite, complete a carrier.

Also in terms of the magnitude of poor planning and organization it took for the ship to take 2.5 times longer to more or less finish than planned.
 
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zyzxtw

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Just my opinion, but now looking back, PLAN probably had the way harder start with carriers compared to the Indians, took way to long for Liaoning to return from Ukraine, and facing extreme pressure from the US navy in 2016 when Shandong is still in the dock. More importantly, China is in constant military blockade so pretty much everything after Liaoning has to be researched and built themselves, Russia can't really help anything carrier related just by looking at how much they struggle at fixing Kuznetsov.
 

Lethe

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More importantly, China is in constant military blockade so pretty much everything after Liaoning has to be researched and built themselves, Russia can't really help anything carrier related just by looking at how much they struggle at fixing Kuznetsov.

Russia may have relatively little to offer China today, but this statement seems to undersell the role of Russian (ok, "Soviet") technology in the development of China's carrier program. Not only the hull and design of Liaoning (the legacy of which is still visible in 003) but the Su-33, the Ka-31 AEW, the AL-31 engines, the UPAZ refueling pod. Probably more than any other segment of the PLA, the carrier program is built on foreign achievements.
 

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