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snake65

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The soviet designers had very well defined ideas about crew comfort.


If it doesn't required for survival then it is to make the ship more comfortable, means it is not needed.
Soviet Union used plenty of so called "floating casernes". The most comfortable were P801 type built in Finland in 70s.P801.jpg
 

Phead128

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China should eventually sell Liaoning back to Russia to replace their Kutnetsov sister ship and use the proceeds to build more EMAL nuclear CATOBARs.
 

Lethe

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China should eventually sell Liaoning back to Russia to replace their Kutnetsov sister ship and use the proceeds to build more EMAL nuclear CATOBARs.
I think that if China hadn't built Shandong, transferring Liaoning back to Russia at some point might've actually worked for both parties. But as it is, China is now committed to supporting non-CATOBAR carriers for the foreseeable future, and selling Liaoning wouldn't change that. I think that by the time China could afford to let one or both of these carriers go, Russia would no longer be interested.
 

Tam

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China should eventually sell Liaoning back to Russia to replace their Kutnetsov sister ship and use the proceeds to build more EMAL nuclear CATOBARs.
Russia is planning to build a nuclear carrier, so they're not going to be interested.
 

kwaigonegin

Colonel
China should eventually sell Liaoning back to Russia to replace their Kutnetsov sister ship and use the proceeds to build more EMAL nuclear CATOBARs.
Liaoning wouldn't be worth very much by then and any proceeds Russia is willing to pay for the sale wouldn't make any significiant dent in offsetting the cost of a new CVN. Used carrier are like used cars. They depreciated pretty quickly after a decade of use. They are not worth much. There's also pride and ego. I just don't see Russia wanting to buy back the rust bucket Ukraine sold 30 yrs ago unless it;s given away for free which then moots the argument.
 

Hendrik_2000

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Lets get back to the topic From global times nothing new we are expecting CV 17 to be commissioned soon

China to soon commission 1st homemade aircraft carrier: reports
Source:Global Times Published: 2019/5/14 17:21:40
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China's first domestically built aircraft carrier, the Type 001A, docks at the shipyard of Dalian Shipbuilding Industry Co Ltd in Dalian, Northeast China's Liaoning Province on Monday. Photo: IC


A full year has passed since China's second aircraft carrier, or the first domestically made, the Type 001A, conducted its first sea trial, leading analysts to suggest the ship might soon officially join the country's naval service.

Their prediction is based on the experience of the country's first carrier, the Liaoning, which took a little more than a year from its maiden voyage to enlist in the PLA Navy.

As of Monday, lane markings have been painted on the Type 001A's flight deck. It also conducted a replenishment drill within the shipyard with the supply ship Hulunhu in late April, news website wenweipo.com reported on Monday.

The first domestically developed carrier undertook its first sea trial on May 13, 2018. Four others have been conducted over the past year.

The sea trials successfully tested the warship's propulsion system, combat and supply capabilities, China Central Television reported in April.

Chinese military enthusiasts had hoped the second carrier would make it to a maritime parade on April 23 to celebrate the People's Liberation Army (PLA) Navy's 70th anniversary in Qingdao, East China's Shandong Province. However, it remained in its shipyard in Dalian, Northeast China's Liaoning Province where it continued to be painted.

The interval between the Liaoning's first sea trial and its commissioning to the PLA Navy was a little more than a year, so analysts believe the domestically made carrier will very likely be commissioned within two months, the wenweipo.com report said.

As the commissioning of the Type 001A appears to be on track, military observers are beginning to shift their focus to China's third carrier.

The construction of the second domestically developed aircraft carrier has begun, the PLA Daily reported on April 21. The Xinhua News Agency also reported construction was underway in November 2018.

Reuters reported on May 7 that the third carrier is being constructed at the Jiangnan Shipyard in Shanghai, citing recent satellite images.

Chinese military experts told the Global Times previously that the third carrier will likely be bigger than the previous two and feature a flat deck instead of jump-rack deck. It might also use new technologies including an electromagnetic catapult to launch its aircraft, they said.

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has yet to confirm the third aircraft carrier is being built.
 

asif iqbal

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China is where the Soviet Union was in 1991 in terms of carriers

Soviet had launched Kuznetsov and Varyag

And had completed 40% of the Ulyanovsk

Now China has technically refitted CV-17 and built CV-17

Is 002 more than 40% complete? Maybe not but they are getting closer

How times change
 

weig2000

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China is where the Soviet Union was in 1991 in terms of carriers

Soviet had launched Kuznetsov and Varyag

And had completed 40% of the Ulyanovsk

Now China has technically refitted CV-17 and built CV-17

Is 002 more than 40% complete? Maybe not but they are getting closer

How times change
Soviet Union collapsed at the end of 1991, and with it the end of Soviet Union carrier program. We'll see whether this year is the start of Chinese carrier era (induction of the first domestic carrier) or the end of it.
 

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