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Richard Santos

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well we know the wiring must be done and so do the major equipment like Boiler, condenser, steam turbine, genset without it there will be no electricity and no fuel to run. Now they must work on piping , HVAC,communication. furnishing etc Any way on different subject
Did anyone posted this picture before ?. Neat shot as CV17 pulled itself from the dock

Very neat being able to catch things as they happen like in shot that caught the 00A1 carrier pulling away from drydock for first time

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The wiring and internal air and fluid conduits for the ship was likely designed not to suit a specific configuration, but with generalized bus architecture with heavy levels of redundancy and surplus throughput capacity that would readily accommodate future expansion and refits.

So the wiring and conduits were likely installed into each hull module during module fabrication, with attention paid to the wiring and conduits from different midukes mating easily as the modules come together. So when the basic hull assembly is complete, all the wiring and conduits were also complete.

I estimate the ship is seaworthy already.
 

Richard Santos

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well we know the wiring must be done and so do the major equipment like Boiler, condenser, steam turbine, genset without it there will be no electricity and no fuel to run. Now they must work on piping , HVAC,communication. furnishing etc Any way on different subject
Did anyone posted this picture before ?. Neat shot as CV17 pulled itself from the dock

Very neat being able to catch things as they happen like in shot that caught the 00A1 carrier pulling away from drydock for first time

DE5XRbDVoAETyJx.jpg

The wiring and internal air and fluid conduits for the ship was likely designed not to be installed as fittings to suit a specific configuration, but as a generalized bus architecture integral to the hull with heavy levels of redundancy and surplus throughput capacity that would readily accommodate future expansion and refits.

So the wiring and conduits were likely installed into each hull module during module fabrication, with attention paid to the wiring and conduits from different midukes mating easily as the modules come together. So when the basic hull assembly is complete, all the wiring and conduits were also complete.

I estimate the ship is seaworthy already.
 

MwRYum

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How many Type 001A stobar carriers PLAN is going to get?
If the catapult selection is indeed finalized and integration into Type 002's schematics is well under way at this time, if not already advanced to simply awaiting final approval, then the 001A will be an one-off deal. Nonetheless, Type 001A will prove once and for all that Chinese military-industrial complex can build aircraft carrier on its own from start to finish, unlike "a certain regional rival" which need to source components and assistance from overseas.
 

Jeff Head

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The wiring and internal air and fluid conduits for the ship was likely designed not to be installed as fittings to suit a specific configuration, but as a generalized bus architecture integral to the hull with heavy levels of redundancy and surplus throughput capacity that would readily accommodate future expansion and refits.

So the wiring and conduits were likely installed into each hull module during module fabrication, with attention paid to the wiring and conduits from different midukes mating easily as the modules come together. So when the basic hull assembly is complete, all the wiring and conduits were also complete.

I estimate the ship is seaworthy already.
It definitely can float. They have already proven that.

But it is not ready to go to sea. They will be installing a lot of things yet.

And they will be checking a lot of things dock side before they ever take it to sea.

We will know they are ready to take her out when they give the engines some good testing dock side, just like they did on the Liaoning...and I do not expect them to take her to sea until the weapons and sensors are installed as well.
 

Richard Santos

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There is a difference between a ship being made ready for sea, and a hull that is sea worthy. I estimate the hull is sea worthy already, and can be made ready for sea by the mere addition of crew, stores and consumables. This does not mean the ship is complete and ready to undertake military mission, just that she is physically safe to navigate.

No doubt much of the fitting out required for military mission is yet to be done. The Chinese may or may not chose to run a separate sea trial before proceeding with the rest of the fitting out. They may continue fitting out the ship without a break, but that does not mean the ship is physically incapable of sailing before that is complete.
 
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Iron Man

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CV-17 is undoubtedly sea-worthy. It is further along than the Varyag was when it was towed all the way from Ukraine to China, and given its engines are already installed, could get underway to pretty much any destination it wants to. That doesn't mean it could function as a carrier in its current state; clearly it could not.
 

delft

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CV-17 is undoubtedly sea-worthy. It is further along than the Varyag was when it was towed all the way from Ukraine to China, and given its engines are already installed, could get underway to pretty much any destination it wants to. That doesn't mean it could function as a carrier in its current state; clearly it could not.
A ship is sea-worthy when she is technically in a fit state and she also has a crew able to handle her.
 
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