CV-16 Liaoning (001 carrier) Thread II ...News, Views and operations


by78

Lieutenant General
That's JMSDF Izumo in the distance. All images are high-resolution.

P.S. There have been way too many lazy Twitter links lately. This forum is turning into a Twitter aggregation website.

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Gloire_bb

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i can't wait this "training" vessel gets replaced by a nuclear EMALS CATOBAR with railguns/lasers, J-35's, and KJ-600s.
The chance is high you'll have to wait for a couple of decades at the very least.
Also, there are two of them in Chinese service. And both were hugely expensive and time-consuming to get to their current operational capability.

The interesting part, however, isn't their replacement (just won't happen). What is interesting is how will their doctrinal employment change after 003s will start entering service: will they be kept separate, or together.
 

lunlunqq

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The official picture released by the Chinese Navy today, The aircraft carrier Liaoning J-15 is taking off, the Japanese Izumo is monitoring nearby, and a Chinese 054A is also monitoring the Japanese Izumo nearby.

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“I’m watching you watching me watching you!!!”
 

defenceman

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That's JMSDF Izumo in the distance. All images are high-resolution.

P.S. There have been way too many lazy Twitter links lately. This forum is turning into a Twitter aggregation website.

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Hi sorry to be a knob to ask the question how much distance should be in between a ACC and a adversary’s ship or aircraft carrier as it looks like Izumo is sailing too close to number 16
thank you
 

plawolf

Brigadier
Hi sorry to be a knob to ask the question how much distance should be in between a ACC and a adversary’s ship or aircraft carrier as it looks like Izumo is sailing too close to number 16
thank you

There are guidelines but no enforceable rules.

For example, there was a famous Cold War incident where a Soviet warship cut across the path of an American carrier as it was doing launches, trying to force the carrier to break and maybe in turn cause a launch failure and fighter ditching in the open ocean so they can fish it up as salvage.

The Americans were understandably pissed, but couldn’t do much beyond sending jets to constantly buzz it at ultra lower altitude to be annoying, and the usual diplomatic protests.
 

asif iqbal

Brigadier
Hi sorry to be a knob to ask the question how much distance should be in between a ACC and a adversary’s ship or aircraft carrier as it looks like Izumo is sailing too close to number 16
thank you

the sea is free and open to all you can pass within few metres if you wish and Iranians do it all the time in the Persian Gulf even flying a P3C Orion right past a USS Nimitz Carrier at very low altitude

close passes increase the chance of a mis-calculation and therefore is not a good thing to do

that Japanese flat deck is very far from the Chinese Carrier in this photo

in the occasion where foreign warship gets too close to a Carrier which is about to do air opps a escort warship will place itself between the Carrier and the foreign warship

in the above photo you can see the Type 054A FFG trailing the Izumo Class, if the Izumo closes the gap the FFG will sandwich itself between the CV-16 and the Izumo Class as the CV-16 is clearly doing air operations and will most likely issue a warning radio signal, this is the standard operating procedure for formation sailing

everyone is professional and wants to avoid a mis-calculation at all costs
 
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j17wang

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Hi sorry to be a knob to ask the question how much distance should be in between a ACC and a adversary’s ship or aircraft carrier as it looks like Izumo is sailing too close to number 16
thank you
I think the lens perspective is distorting but these are both massive warships. Izumo is likely at least ~3,000 meters or 10,000 feet out. Looks like the distances are staged from both parties for decent photo ops.
 

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