Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

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KYli said:
How about the Guardian reported about the 50 deaths of fully vaccinated British and questioned AstraZeneca and Pfizer effectiveness.
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Wow, life long protection. Wait, why there is a surge in cases in the UK.
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So convenient for the guardian to mention Mongolia having a high infection rate despite its high vaccination rate apparently with Sinovac vaccines when the Mongolian themselves have found that the Chinese vaccines are the top or second-best performing vaccines (even better than Pfizer and AstraZeneca) in their own findings. (Link to the findings in the previous post.)
 
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KYli said:
How about the Guardian reported about the 50 deaths of fully vaccinated British and questioned AstraZeneca and Pfizer effectiveness.
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Wow, life long protection. Wait, why there is a surge in cases in the UK.
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Lots of people patting themselves on the back about how successful the vaccination programme have been and a complete lack of alarm regarding the increasing number of cases, even among healthcare professionals.

People who are infected do not drop dead straight away. With ventilation and ICU it can be weeks or even months before people die.

There is a lag between deaths and cases. As the number of cases goes up, so does the hospitalisation rate. As that increases, so does the deaths. Even without the increased burden on healthcare facilities,

We're still dealing with the backlog of non-covid cases from the last wave.

The UK will be the real litmus test for western vaccinations - ask me in a months time how effective they are.
 
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Dr Danielle Anderson, the last foreign virologist worked at WIV until Nov. 2019,
1. Does not think the virus was man-made.
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2. She likes WIV's method of disinfection so much, she wanted to introduce it to her own lab.
From her first visit before it formally opened in 2018, Anderson was impressed with the institute’s maximum
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. The concrete, bunker-style building has the highest biosafety designation, and requires air, water and waste to be filtered and sterilized before it leaves the facility. There were strict protocols and requirements aimed at containing the pathogens being studied, Anderson said, and researchers underwent 45 hours of training to be certified to work independently in the lab.

The induction process required scientists to demonstrate their knowledge of containment procedures and their competency in wearing air-pressured suits. “It’s very, very extensive,” Anderson said.

Entering and exiting the facility was a carefully choreographed endeavor, she said. Departures were made especially intricate by a requirement to take both a chemical shower and a personal shower—the timings of which were precisely planned.

Special Disinfectants​

These rules are mandatory across BSL-4 labs, though Anderson noted differences compared with similar facilities in Europe, Singapore and Australia in which she’s worked. The Wuhan lab uses a bespoke method to make and monitor its disinfectants daily, a system Anderson was inspired to introduce in her own lab. She was connected via a headset to colleagues in the lab’s command center to enable constant communication and safety vigilance—steps designed to ensure nothing went awry.
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3. She wasn't aware that anyone was sick at the end of 2019, contrary to what WSJ reported.
Anderson said no one she knew at the Wuhan institute was ill toward the end of 2019. Moreover, there is a procedure for reporting symptoms that correspond with the pathogens handled in high-risk containment labs.

“If people were sick, I assume that I would have been sick—and I wasn’t,” she said. “I was tested for coronavirus in Singapore before I was vaccinated, and had never had it.”

Not only that, many of Anderson’s collaborators in Wuhan came to Singapore at the end of December for a gathering on Nipah virus. There was no word of any illness sweeping the laboratory, she said.

“There was no chatter,” Anderson said. “Scientists are gossipy and excited. There was nothing strange from my point of view going on at that point that would make you think something is going on here.”
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Phead128 said:
350 Million die of influenza without masks/lockdowns across how many countries and how many years?

Now multiple that by 20X and COVID will kill that much if not more over the same countries and time period, without any masks/lockdowns. 6-8X more deadly with masks/lockdowns.

Checkmate, anti-vaxxer.
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whose an anti -vaxxer? I have received both my astrazenica vaccines , I'm just stating a fact ! And the fact is that just like Influenza , Covid will be here forever so just get over it and learn to live with it in our society !
 
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