Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

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Colonel
Vaccine-related deaths is 0.0014% compared to COVID-related deaths at 1.8%, which is over orders of magnitude more deadly. Over 3 Million died of COVID worldwide compared to only few thousand vaccine related deaths.

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Quickie

Colonel
You forget that countries that have covid under control do so with draconian measures that are not sustainable in the long run.

Only vaccines can protect people if we want to return to normality.

I'm aware of that. Still, these countries are facing the inevitable choice of having to vaccinate their population at the risk of the vaccine's side effects causing many more fatalities than the virus has already caused.

IMO, the best choice of vaccine for these countries is those that have proven to be with the least fatality caused by side effects although the vaccine may be slightly slower in building up antibodies and be requiring a booster shot, which wouldn't be that much of a problem because of those countries very low infection rates.
 
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plawolf

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You forget that countries that have covid under control do so with draconian measures that are not sustainable in the long run.

Only vaccines can protect people if we want to return to normality.
Please list precisely what ‘draconian measures’ China currently have in place which is fundamentally different compared to what most western ‘free’ nations are doing already, and just how they are unsuitable.
 

KYli

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It is sad that Chinese vaccines need to defend themselves against MSM propaganda everyday.
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I think China would rollout Sinovac and Sinopharm for children within the next few months.
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The Beta variant, first detected in South Africa, is the most dominant variant in the UAE, accounting for 39.2% of cases, it said.

Delta, first detected in India, accounts for 33.9% of infections. Alpha, first detected in Britain, accounts for 11.3%, it said on Twitter late on Sunday.

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Nonstop demonizing of Chinese vaccines. AstraZeneca never got mentioned. Pfizer and Moderna are deemed a miracle.
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solarz

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Please list precisely what ‘draconian measures’ China currently have in place which is fundamentally different compared to what most western ‘free’ nations are doing already, and just how they are unsuitable.

Did I say anywhere that they are unsuitable? I said these measures are unsustainable in the long run.

It's not just China. Tourism is basically dead all over the world. Everywhere else outside of China, the economy has ground to a halt.

In China, there's now a 4 week quarantine. Vast amounts of resources are devoted to rapid response in the event of a localized outbreak. Cities/regions are still being blocked off whenever a new case is discovered.
 

quantumlight

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Did I say anywhere that they are unsuitable? I said these measures are unsustainable in the long run.

It's not just China. Tourism is basically dead all over the world. Everywhere else outside of China, the economy has ground to a halt.

In China, there's now a 4 week quarantine. Vast amounts of resources are devoted to rapid response in the event of a localized outbreak. Cities/regions are still being blocked off whenever a new case is discovered.

It is a worldwide 'demand destruction' event... think of it as Peak Energy mitigation of sorts... it is not sustainable long term, but in this 'war of attrition' it boils down to which civilization can endure better in this clash of civilizations... now that we have globally peaked in oil and energy, its an ever shrinking zero sum game... so COVID is basically a means to seperate the men from the boys and a drawing of straws of sorts since there aren't enough lifeboats on planet earth.... India for example didn't draw the best straw
 

Phead128

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Yeah and 350 million have died of influenza but still nobody has shut down borders and country's for influeza!
350 Million die of influenza without masks/lockdowns across how many countries and how many years?

Now multiple that by 20X and COVID will kill that much if not more over the same countries and time period, without any masks/lockdowns. 6-8X more deadly with masks/lockdowns.

Checkmate, anti-vaxxer.
 

Gatekeeper

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Did they kiss? Were tongues used?

Did you not see the video? Please keep up. Lol. Reproduce for you you below

Oh yeah, and now some newspaper is blaming it on Chinese espionage footage. Lol.

Matt Hancock video leak will be investigated - Brandon Lewis​

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This is the same people who accuses China's Wuhan lab of deliberate outbreak. This on top of the sxxt eye testing drive for round trip of 50 miles to a castle with kids from the Prince of darkness Dominic Cummings. What a joke.

British Health Secretary Matt Hancock has been caught on video having a secret affair with his closest aide
He cheated on his wife with Gina Coladangelo, who he hired last year with taxpayers’ money, as Covid gripped Britain.
Whistleblowers revealed the Health Secretary had been spotted cheating on his wife of 15 years with married Ms Coladangelo.
He was seen kissing her at the Department of Health’s London HQ during office hours last month as the mutant strain began spreading.
Hancock apologised for his actions, saying: "I accept that I breached the social distancing guidance in these circumstances.
It was reported that Hancock told his wife he was leaving her on the night his affair was revealed.
Matt Hancock resigned from the cabinet last night!
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