Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

[NiuBiDaRen]

well, not much you could do in Singapore ... and going to Batam and Johor would be considered overseas trip .. not really smart comparison, you should be better than that

For UK, it is true when the UK was part of EU .. travel between UK and France was like between city ... but now, the figure would be totally different


No, you have no clues about NZ ... you knew something (not much) better after googling ... thanks mr google

The good thing about New Zealand is that even if stuck on the two islands, there's a lot of things to retreat to. A cabin, sea sports, mountain sports, adventure sports... Even if you only know how to ride a bicycle, you can cycle and very soon if you are in the beautiful countryside and you have the whole place to yourself.

That's why they filmed the Lord of the Rings in NZ, absolutely surreal landscapes.

You can even visit wineries. I would want to try to burglarize a winery one day and roll a carton of wine back home. (Anyway I'm off to sea noobs!)

 

[antiterror13]

The good thing about New Zealand is that even if stuck on the two islands, there's a lot of things to retreat to. A cabin, sea sports, mountain sports, adventure sports... Even if you only know how to ride a bicycle, you can cycle and very soon if you are in the beautiful countryside and you have the whole place to yourself.

That's why they filmed the Lord of the Rings in NZ, absolutely surreal landscapes.

You can even visit wineries. I would want to try to burglarize a winery one day and roll a carton of wine back home. (Anyway I'm off to sea noobs!)

yeapp, that true. Regarding LOTR, Peter Jackson lives in NZ in Wellington. In fact , his mansion is not too far from where I live

Do you know that James Cameron has decided to 100% live in NZ (currently ~50%) and would make films only in NZ ?

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It says a lot about NZ from that calibre person ... so, I do hope you know a bit more of NZ

 

[Gatekeeper]

Like I said, too naive.

Look at Canada. We just discovered 215 children buried in a mass grave under a residential school. Did our politicians look in the mirror and wondered if they were doing the right thing? No, they just gave themselves an extra holiday and patted themselves on the back for a job well done. After which they went right on talking about China's human right abuses.

Paul Keating once said that "Australia is at the arse end of the world"

I think he meant New Zealand. Maybe just the South Island. Maybe just Dunedin ...

Anyway, I jest.

But statistics have a way of lying.

eg.
Chinese and USians do travel a lot but their numbers are disproportionately domestic derived.
Likewise, Europeans do travel "internationally" a lot but is travel within the Schengen area truly international travel or really a form of domestic travel?
HK takes the cake as far as international travel by local residents are concerned but we all know that it is disproportionately inflated by the business travels of the fat cats flying in and out.

So, is flying across the creek considered international travel and how much of NZ's travel statistic is distorted by that?

The arse end of the world? It all depends from your perspectives. Lol

I think we're talking about the same thing just from different directions?

Likewise, Taiwan and the US has failed on covid strategies but hey, let's do a symbolic flight into Taiwan and score some cheap points so our people looking at that C17 parked in Taiwan will say American F**k yeah and ignore that how much fail we have.

So to clarify what I have been saying,
The flight and the shipment of 750k vaccines does absolutely SFA in real terms.
But the photo opt and the storyline spun from it is exactly as per what you have said, assuaging their own guilt and giving them a bogeyman to vent on.

Note: the 215 is just the latest number on top of thousands previously discovered. Yes, we wonder when the west will hold themselves accountable but I ain't holding my breath waiting for that.

Cheap publicity stunt to make them look good and humanitarians, at the same time stick theur fingers up the commies. And it works for their own masses that bought that narratives.

But to us adults, it just showed once again, white men talks with fork ...... the U.S. recognises there's only one China, US has diplomatic relationship with that China which is based in Beijing. Then as a responsible sovereign country, what the U.S. doing is clearly, not correct, let alone incendiary and provocation.

I can tell you don't do sea sports. Sea sports is actually very cooling during hot weather.

Surfing isn't possible in Singapore or Hong Kong. Windsurfing however is very much so. You can do them at Aloha Sea Sports Centre and NSRCC Sea Sports Centre. I do know the sea sports community there well.

You made a layman mistake of conflating surfing and windsurfing. There's windsurfing, windfoiling, wing surfing, wing foiling etc. All of these can be done in Singapore and Hong Kong even with the wind conditions there. Kite surfing can only be done with a boat unfortunately. Scuba diving isn't really counted as a sea sport, nor dragon boating or kayaking (more green water river sports).

If you actually participated in sea sports in Singapore or Hong Kong you would know locals are outnumbered by whites. There's a common refrain that Singaporeans and Hong Kongers are not adventurous in this sense. Also if you participated in sea sports you would know the vast majority of sea sports can be done with much fun even with the generally tame wind conditions in your country.

Scuba diving is not ideal not because of maritime traffic but the murky urban waters. There is a high separation between the container ships and sea sports activity zone.

Sailing is very competitive in Singapore. Any world sailor knows that Singapore Sailing is very competitive in the global landscape. Even more so than Hong Kong Sailing. There are three major sailing centres in your country, all on the East Coast. Chow Yun Fat came from Hong Kong to Singapore to learn sailing so most certainly sailing can be done (I got the retro photo of Chow Yun Fat learning sailing with my dad's friends).

Thanks for suggesting that I'm a 'mad dog' lol

At the risk of putting wirds to @AndrewS mouth. I dont think he's calling you mad dog. He was referring to a line in a song in the 1940/50s. The line was:

The Chinese wouldn't care for it, the Japanese wouldn't dare for it, but Mad dogs and the Englishmen goes out to the midday sun!

 

[NiuBiDaRen]

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The arse end of the world? It all depends from your perspectives. Lol

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Cheap publicity stunt to make them look good and humanitarians, at the same time stick theur fingers up the commies. And it works for their own masses that bought that narratives.

But to us adults, it just showed once again, white men talks with fork ...... the U.S. recognises there's only one China, US has diplomatic relationship with that China which is based in Beijing. Then as a responsible sovereign country, what the U.S. doing is clearly, not correct, let alone incendiary and provocation.

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At the risk of putting wirds to @AndrewS mouth. I dont think he's calling you mad dog. He was referring to a line in a song in the 1940/50s. The line was:

The Chinese wouldn't care for it, the Japanese wouldn't dare for it, but Mad dogs and the Englishmen goes out to the midday sun!

Speaking of 1940s, Subramanian Swamy was born in 1939 and expects to live to 2070. Talk about deluded fantasies from Indians!

In tropical climes there are certain times of day
When all the citizens retire
To tear their clothes off and persprie.
It's one of those rules that the greatest fools obey,
Because the sun is much too sultry
And one must avoid its ultry-violet ray.
The native grieve when the white men leave their huts,
Because they're obviously definitely nuts!
Mad dogs and Englishmen
Go out in the midday sun,
The Japanese don't care to.
The Chinese wouldn't dare to,

 

[NiuBiDaRen]

Britisher: I dare to go out in the midday sun
Chinese 苦力: hold my bamboo hat

@Gatekeeper @ansy1968

 

[NiuBiDaRen]

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The arse end of the world? It all depends from your perspectives. Lol

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Cheap publicity stunt to make them look good and humanitarians, at the same time stick theur fingers up the commies. And it works for their own masses that bought that narratives.

But to us adults, it just showed once again, white men talks with fork ...... the U.S. recognises there's only one China, US has diplomatic relationship with that China which is based in Beijing. Then as a responsible sovereign country, what the U.S. doing is clearly, not correct, let alone incendiary and provocation.

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At the risk of putting wirds to @AndrewS mouth. I dont think he's calling you mad dog. He was referring to a line in a song in the 1940/50s. The line was:

The Chinese wouldn't care for it, the Japanese wouldn't dare for it, but Mad dogs and the Englishmen goes out to the midday sun!

I mean it is pretty clear @Heliox was trying to take a subtle dig at me, but I'll try to not get offended.

Mad dog
1. A rabid dog.
2. (figuratively, by extension) Someone who is aggressive and fanatical; an aggressor who cannot be reasoned with.

I ain't gonna use the n word on someone even though the n word appears in a lot of African American songs in a casual manner. This kind of subtle insults are very insidious.

There was a Checkpoint Charlie
He didn't crack a smile
But it's no laughing party
When you've been on the murder mile
Only takes one itchy trigger
One more widow, one less white nigger

Very caustic.

 

[SteelBird]

The C-17 that landed in Taiwan was empty?

 

[NiuBiDaRen]

The C-17 that landed in Taiwan was empty?

Yeah but the Taiwanese government decorated that famous Taipei Grand Hotel to show gratitude to USA's bountiful offerings of vaccines.

 

[solarz]

The C-17 that landed in Taiwan was empty?

LOL, so apparently that wasn't even a vaccine shipment, it was just an announcement of a vaccine shipment?

 

[supersnoop]

Get ready for propaganda multiplier effect
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Already I have seen this article quoted around the internet as "proof" both by random comments on the internet and other publications

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Yet if anyone actually bothers to read the content

Waleed Khalifa al Manea, Bahrain’s undersecretary of health, said the vaccine manufactured by state-owned Chinese drugmaker Sinopharm, which has accounted for more than 60% of Bahrain’s inoculations so far, was providing a high degree of protection. More than 90% of people hospitalized in the current Covid-19 wave, the worst the country has faced, hadn’t been vaccinated, he said.

Well, that pretty much means the spike in cases is unrelated to the efficacy of the vaccine. If Bahrain had lost confidence in Sinopharm, they could just drop it like many countries have dropped AstraZeneca. Instead, they are only encouraging Pfizer boosters for at risk groups such as people with comorbidities such as obesity. Otherwise they are also encouraging a third Sinopharm shot as well.

In a separate, unpublished, real-world study of Sinopharm in Serbia, 29% of 150 participants were found to have zero antibodies against the virus three months after they received the first of two shots of the vaccine...

So before the Chinese vaccines were unreliable because the studies were not published. Now they are published, but they are unreliable because of other unpublished studies.
Let's give the study the benefit of the doubt though.
1. 150 is pretty limited considering thousands have been vaccinated with Sinopharm
2. So the finding is that 71% does have antibodies? The WHO has accepted the 79% number, so we are looking at only a 8% difference in a very, very limited study.