Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

B.I.B.

Captain
The 14 countries that made a statement about the WHO-China report are either U.S. lackeys or belong to the Five Eyes, with the exception of Norway:

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
I hope you notice 5 eyes member NZ is not a signatory to the statement.
Well I just got my first Pfizer shot. My county's website said there was a choice of three vaccines. Nope. Just as long it wasn't AstraZeneca. With all the contradictory information out there on the news, I had no idea which one would be best anyway if I had the choice. So far only a slight muscle soreness in the shot area and had a little bit of sinus action without the headache.
I'm in the last group that is to be given a Pfizer shot. Our current vaccination rate is about 7000 a week. With a population of 5million and for allowing for some to be given their 2nd shot, I figure I won't be vaccinated until 2023.
 

SteelBird

Colonel
Cambodia starts vaccination with the 1.5 million doses of Sinovac today. My name is not in that long list. After infection increases daily with dual digit and sometime 3-digit, Cambodia's capital, Phnom Penh, introduce the first curfew for two weeks between 8pm to 5am, also, starting today.
 

supersnoop

Colonel
Registered Member
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

So much contradictory news over how India is spearheading vaccinating the world and since the West is propping up India, you would have to believe the bad news is the one that's true.
There was a few obvious problems pointed out earlier in the thread.
1. India's massive number of infections
2. India's vaccine is the AstraZeneca one which has had the most problems so far
Just heard the funniest thing ever: Ontario is entering a new lockdown, but schools are going to remain open. o_O

Canadian covid policies are a train wreck.
What I really don't understand about Canadian and European policies is why they did not adopt some of the practices as Asian countries.
With mostly public healthcare systems and less issues with government interventionism, they should have been better able to mount a coherent response.

This was posted a few pages back
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Health pass? A lot of Asian countries were doing this last year following China and Korea (not sure who was first).

Why only recently did they start testing at the airports in Canada? Why did they not force hotel quarantine before?
All of these things were pretty common sense. You don't have to have a medical degree to see higher population density, but lower number of cases.

In HK, they do routine air flow checks for public spaces, are they doing that here? Outside of schools, I don't believe there are any kind of guidelines for it.
 

solarz

Brigadier
What I really don't understand about Canadian and European policies is why they did not adopt some of the practices as Asian countries.
With mostly public healthcare systems and less issues with government interventionism, they should have been better able to mount a coherent response.

Back in March 2020, I thought that even though our politicians won't have the guts to do what China did, at least our health care system would be professional enough to mount a cogent response to the pandemic.

Turns out, our health care officials are just as much politicians as our parliamentarians.

It's comedic how the whole thing has played out. School was halted in March 2020, and cases steadily dropped over the weeks to low-hundreds per day over the summer. Schools opened again in September, and cases started climbing steadily until it hit a peak of 4000/day by Christmas. Then we closed schools for a few weeks, and the cases started dropping again. When it dropped to around 1000/day, they opened the schools again, and as if by magic, the cases started climbing again, and now we're at 2000+/day again.

This obvious correlation is COMPLETELY ignored in the media and by the government. They keep saying schools are safe. Every time a local school comes down with a confirmed case, they keep repeating that the risk of transmission is "still low".

Just in case anyone needs the obvious explained, COVID-19 is transmissible days before the first symptoms appear. People will only get tested if they have symptoms. COVID tests take days to receive results (I know, my in-laws had to take them to return to China). Schools only report a confirmed case after they get notified of the positive result, so by the time they send out those emails, the infected kid has had at least a week to infect other kids.

Now that I think about it, I seem to remember that back in December 2020, when cases were reaching 2000+/day (as it is now), the province also issued a lockdown but did not shut down schools. Then the "experts" were baffled as to why the cases weren't going down!
 

supersnoop

Colonel
Registered Member
The whole response has been totally uneven. There was a lady on the news that said the school told her to keep the kids at home, but the public health unit said it should be fine for them to go to work if the kids aren't sick.
Makes no sense.

I am not an expert or a genius, but how hard would it be to send a mobile testing team and set up outside schools to test kids and families? Just be safe and force families at the school to isolate. You are giving CERB and such out anyway.

Also one more thing, Apple and Google were willing to develop covid tracking apps and methods partly on their own dime. How could no one think to ask them to develop a "Check In" feature to help with contact tracing? A small business could sign up with their address, print out a QR code and be done.
Instead the government asks businesses to put out a notebook that no one wants to touch!

Again, I believe this was already being done in Asia.
 

voyager1

Captain
Registered Member
Back in March 2020, I thought that even though our politicians won't have the guts to do what China did, at least our health care system would be professional enough to mount a cogent response to the pandemic.

Turns out, our health care officials are just as much politicians as our parliamentarians.

It's comedic how the whole thing has played out. School was halted in March 2020, and cases steadily dropped over the weeks to low-hundreds per day over the summer. Schools opened again in September, and cases started climbing steadily until it hit a peak of 4000/day by Christmas. Then we closed schools for a few weeks, and the cases started dropping again. When it dropped to around 1000/day, they opened the schools again, and as if by magic, the cases started climbing again, and now we're at 2000+/day again.

This obvious correlation is COMPLETELY ignored in the media and by the government. They keep saying schools are safe. Every time a local school comes down with a confirmed case, they keep repeating that the risk of transmission is "still low".

Just in case anyone needs the obvious explained, COVID-19 is transmissible days before the first symptoms appear. People will only get tested if they have symptoms. COVID tests take days to receive results (I know, my in-laws had to take them to return to China). Schools only report a confirmed case after they get notified of the positive result, so by the time they send out those emails, the infected kid has had at least a week to infect other kids.

Now that I think about it, I seem to remember that back in December 2020, when cases were reaching 2000+/day (as it is now), the province also issued a lockdown but did not shut down schools. Then the "experts" were baffled as to why the cases weren't going down!
You are 100% correct. Chinese people sometimes dont realise how things work in the "western world" (hint: not well)

The EU's response was bad, in the beginning they did lockdowns but they wanted the border to remain open lol. Like why even have lockdowns if your border is open.

(E.g If you go lockdowns go full China's version for 2-3 months and then open up but still keep the borders closed...)

And then the idiots decided that covid was over on the summer and thus they opened the borders so that people could travel for holidays.. and then on the autumn another covid wave happened and everything got closed again. Then the same happened with Christmas and another lockdown..


Chinese people should be very grateful to their government for dealing with covid with such good results, while managing a country of 1.4 billion people

And now on the EU, some countries now go for lockdown AGAIN.
Xi pls send help!
 
Top