Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

NiuBiDaRen

Brigadier
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That piece was nit picking BS of the highest order.

The entire tone of the piece was to act as if China had all the knowledge it does now from the very first minute of the outbreak.

The secrecy was entirely warranted given what was suspected. Had China just did a Twitter livestream as those idiots wanted, it would have made things a million times worse for both China and the world.

China isn’t some remote 3rd world backwater, if the government had gone public with things as soon as it was discovered, it would have caused mass panic and a mass exodus of people out of Wuhan to the rest of China and the world, supercharging the virus spread.

China first needed to be sure what this was, and then needed time to prepare for a total lockdown of Wuhan, something the same western journalists and medical hacks who are criticising China now were laughing at China at the time for the ‘extreme overreaction’ and ‘violation of human rights’.

The very fact that only a tiny percentage of the confirmed cases in the west originated from Wuhan is testimony to the effectiveness of the Chinese response (European and American outbreaks only really kicked off in earnest when tourists returned home from skii holidays in Italy after Easter).

I have a very simple answer to the western Karens complaining about China’s initial response - would a few extra days’ warning have stopped your own elected leaders from being the total fucktards that they are? No? Well how would it have made any difference to their response to the pandemic when they wasted months doing F all to prepare and instead focused all their efforts on kicking China while it was down?

The blame for the virus raging completely out of control in the west lies solely and squarely with western leaders, scientists and journalists. How dare you complain of days when your own response time is measured in months? How many months did it take for the UK to report its own new variant?

I would curse them with a pox on their house, but that seems redundant at this point.
What they want is this.

They want China to have locked down the whole country, so COVID couldn't escape China. So we Westerners not be affected.

The problem is this. If China had done so, which obviously wasn't feasible in the slightest degree, China would have been accused of

A. Locking up foreigners in China and preventing them from escaping to spread COVID, which is a human rights and diplomatic violation
B. Putting 1 billion people in a prison cell, which is a human rights violation

Now that China has been extremely successful in containing COVID, the media is now saying the 'human costs' of China's success is a human rights violation.

Essentially if China had locked down the whole country to spare muh Westerner precious lyfe, it would still be condemned of Great Evil. Might as well just spread the virus, then.
 

SimaQian

Junior Member
Registered Member
Interesting how all these new worse variants popping up are coming from countries that didn't take COVID-19 seriously except maybe South Africa. I hadn't heard if the government there was like the others.
Its just how evolution works. Every infection is technically a variant. Just like all living organisms, every offspring produces tiny change of the parents DNA. For example even in dogs, cats or humans or any animals will produce different offsprings even with same parents. These tiny random changes in DNA are the organism iteration so that it will have a higher chance to thrive in its environment. One visible instance of this adaptation, all white skin humans thrive in northern latitudes because they have to adapt with the lower sunlight intensity it received there. The same is true with darker skin, to protect from too much sunlight.

Back to the virus, these organisms have a very short lifespan and doesnt need sex for procreation. Therefore the more it can find a human or any animal host the more it can produce random DNA iterations to thrive in its enviroment. There are millions of viruses out there but they dont just simply come out because they circulate only at certain populations.

What we are seeing all those UK variants, South Africa variants, or whatever variants is the proof that the virus wants to thrive to their respective environments.

The more infections the better will be the virus iteration. That is why its very important to slow this virus iteration process until our human bodies can adapt to have defence mechanisms against this coronavirus.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
Its just how evolution works. Every infection is technically a variant. Just like all living organisms, every offspring produces tiny change of the parents DNA. For example even in dogs, cats or humans or any animals will produce different offsprings even with same parents. These tiny random changes in DNA are the organism iteration so that it will have a higher chance to thrive in its environment. Once visible instance of this adaptation, all white skin humans thrive in northern latitudes because they have to adapt with the lower sunlight intensity it received there. The same is true with darker skin, to protect from too much sunlight.

Back to the virus, these organisms have a very short lifespan and doesnt need sex for procreation. Therefore the more it can find a human or any animal host the more it can produce random DNA iterations to thrive in its enviroment. There are millions of viruses out there but they dont just simply come out because they circulate only at certain populations.

What we are seeing all those UK variants, South Africa variants, or whatever variants is the proof that the virus wants to thrive to their respective environments.

The more infections the better will be thee virus iteration. That is why its very important to slow this virus iteration process until our human bodies can adapt to have defence mechanisms against this coronavirus.
Large populations and time increases the likelihood of new variants to show up hence why countries especially with large populations should take it seriously.
 

Gatekeeper

Brigadier
Registered Member
What they want is this.

They want China to have locked down the whole country, so COVID couldn't escape China. So we Westerners not be affected.

The problem is this. If China had done so, which obviously wasn't feasible in the slightest degree, China would have been accused of

A. Locking up foreigners in China and preventing them from escaping to spread COVID, which is a human rights and diplomatic violation
B. Putting 1 billion people in a prison cell, which is a human rights violation

Now that China has been extremely successful in containing COVID, the media is now saying the 'human costs' of China's success is a human rights violation.

Essentially if China had locked down the whole country to spare muh Westerner precious lyfe, it would still be condemned of Great Evil. Might as well just spread the virus, then.

It was less than a year ago. That Trump claimed credit for stopping the Covid coming from China. Anyone remember he said he did a tremendous job in stopping all the Chinese flying into America.

If that's the case, the U.S. Covid is not Chinese. But when it got out of hand, he played the racist card, calling in it Chinese virus.

And how about the U.K. flying planes to 'rescue' their citizens with great fanfare. Taking them straight from the airport to the hotel for quarantine with everyone in full protective gear. Made it look like something out of sci-fi film. Only thing was the poor coach firm and their drivers didn't get the memo! Lol

And if they've all been quarantine, then the cases in the U.K. can not have been from China. So again it can't be Chinese flu that their MSM papers have been pushing, causing anxieties to the Chinese communities in the U.K. And the subsequent racism experienced by British Chinese all over the U.K.

Meanwhile they thought China was rubbing salt into their wounds after China's lock down was successful whereas the two worse death rates in the world is....... oh, the U.S. and the U.K.!
 
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plawolf

Lieutenant General
It’s going to be a tough pill to swallow, but they really need to cancel Chinese New Year again this year or all the mass travelling might cause the virus to go out of control.

There will be unhappiness and grumbling, but everyone only need to look abroad to see the necessity of it.
 

Phead128

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If we killed everyone, that means no one can be infected anymore, amirite
Counter-points to the "German Immunologists" (not Epidemiologist btw)

1. Vaccination reduces severity of disease, it doesn't prevent transmission. Still have to wear masks and social distance until herd immunity is achieved.
2. Supply of 600M doses does NOT mean that 600M doses will finally be administered. Anti-Vaxxers in US is more extreme than their Anti-Maskers counterpart.
3. If only 40% of population is vaccinated (Herd Immunity of 70-80%), the virus will run MORE rampant given the "false-sense of security" from partial vaccination of population.
4. Knowing the American public, they would declare victory at 40% and return life as "normal", to hell with the remaining 60%. "False sense of security".

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China needs to finish large scale trials in Brazil/abroad, and quickly vaccinate as large of a population as possible.
 
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