Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

antiterror13

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Indians are facing a different problem now. Nobody wants to get vaccinated not even their healthcare workers. Due to lack of data transparency nobody trusts these indigenous vaccines. Now the Govt is begging, threatening everybody to take it.

In many states only 15- 20% of daily target is being completed.



I don't really blame them ;), they should buy Chinese vaccine, hopefully China would sell it to them
 

lgnxz

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Sinovac vaccine may be more effective when dosed between longer intervals.

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How do they decide the dosing period in the first place then.. It's also very weird that they just know this finding after phase 3 trials. As far as I know only sinovac is doing the 2 weeks interval dosage as well, the rest are doing it 3-4 weeks apart.
 

Quickie

Colonel
Indians are facing a different problem now. Nobody wants to get vaccinated not even their healthcare workers. Due to lack of data transparency nobody trusts these indigenous vaccines. Now the Govt is begging, threatening everybody to take it.

In many states only 15- 20% of daily target is being completed.


I don't really blame them ;), they should buy Chinese vaccine, hopefully China would sell it to them

One way of building confidence is to let third-party countries do the vaccine trial themselves which is the route the Chinese vaccines have been going through.

Then again would India has the confidence to do that when even Western vaccine manufacturers are not brave enough to let third party countries do the vaccine trial independently?

In the end, even after going through this route of best practices, the Chinese vaccines are having a tough time fighting against the unending assault from the Western propaganda machine.
 

hashtagpls

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You really got to wonder how does someone like him hates a country so much? Just what makes thus people tick?

Here he is only 5 days ago doing another hatchet job on Xinjian. Noticed he used false images (proven) and drives around as if he was harassed to the British general public.

He just had to mention "picking cotton". Its perfect subliminal messaging to Western audiences to build the "Uighur slavery" narrative. When an American justice warrior reads that, straightaway his/her mind pictures the black slaves who were once picking cottons in the US. Wonderful to build outrage, anger, and hate towards China. Why can't John Sudworth lie about "Uighur slavery" for other crops? Like Xinjang Grapes, or Xinjiang Hami Melons? Naah, because it wont have the same impact as cotton picking. He is a cunning propagandist. He knows what he is doing.

John Sudworth and his kind of people are the typical type of anti-China haters from the so called 'liberal-left progressives'. Unlike the right wing conservatives who are quite loud and blunt with their hate on China. These people know how to manipulate the masses to hate China. Both sides lie, but one side knows how to do it so much better. I dare say that these people are far more dangerous than the right-wing haters. These people laid out the foundation of lies and disinformation that gives the right-wingers and racists their justification to hate on China. These people after-all gave the energy to the HK democrazy mobs, Ukrainian Nazis, Islamic terrorists, etc to hate, and if possible, kill their supposed enemies.

That is why a Biden presidency gives me no faith of improvements in US-China ties. What we will get is a different kind of anti-China hate. No more big bombastic bluster like Trump or Steve Bannon. What we will get is more subtle, suggestive, even manipulative type of anti-China messages. I do hope the Chinese govt takes this liberal-left China haters threat more seriously. Their past track record in countering against these folks is frankly quite abysmal. That led to the avalanche of China hating we witnessed during the Trump presidency. Trump and his fellow right wing conservatives are easy. These "liberal-lefts" are on another league.
White people like sudworth benefit from a world where being white, anglo and male confers privileges.

China's rise and growing wealth and power threatens that privilege, hence why they will lie and go to the extent of sacrificing 400k of their peoples' lives just to prevent that from happening. In vain.

A few days back, Reuters had a bitch piece complaining that China's lunar mission didn't get the entire 2kg of moon rocks they were hoping to get. THat's the sort of butthurt and jealousy that they exhibit and will continue to exhibit as we enter a world where the white anglo must wait in line like the rest of the peoples of the world.
 

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from Clalit that was published last week reports that 14 days after receiving the first Pfizer-BioNTech shot, infection rates among 200,000 Israelis older than 60 fell 33 percent among those vaccinated compared to 200,000 from the same demographic who hadn't received a jab.

For some reason, my comment was not appearing in that post.

So, 33% protection for the first dose. What would be the efficacy rate like after the second dose, 50%? 66%?

It'll be interesting to know what kind of efficacy rate they'll report after that second dose because this is coming from the user themselves, not the vaccine manufacturer.
 

Gatekeeper

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A few days back, Reuters had a bitch piece complaining that China's lunar mission didn't get the entire 2kg of moon rocks they were hoping to get. THat's the sort of butthurt and jealousy that they exhibit and will continue to exhibit as we enter a world where the white anglo must wait in line like the rest of the peoples of the world.

Yes the degree of butt hurt must be unbearable. I had people saying to me why dies China bothered to spend all this money in getting rock samples back from the moon, when US has already done that!

Talk about being a mushroom (being kept in the dark and feed with bullshit). The MSM has done a good job at this.

I said didn't you know that the U.S. refused to share any if those rocks with China? Just like the so-called 'international space station'. It so international, it excludes one fifth of mankind!
 

vesicles

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The latest Israeli study shows that, out of 102 medical personnel vaccinated, 100 show high levels of antibodies against the virus after two shots of Pfizer vaccine, even higher than those recovered from an actual severe infection. This suggests two things: (1) the vaccine is effectively generating antibodies and is effectively protecting the individual with the vaccine; (2) those with the vaccine likely won't transmit the virus to others (so the vaccine prevents further transmission). This is a good development, although it is a small study of only 102 people. They are in the process of evaluating a total of > 7000 hospital employees once all of them get their second shots. Looking forward to the peer-reviewed study hopefully coming out soon.
 
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vesicles

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Another much larger Israeli study of 200,000 vaccinated shows that the first dose of the Pfizer vaccine is not very effective, with an efficacy of only ~30%. This shows the need to get that crucial second shot. Also, the gap of 21 days (or 28 days for Moderna) must be strictly followed. So what the UK is doing is plainly stupid. Go back to the established protocol!

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