Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)


localizer

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How do yall see the general covid situation playing out in the US for rest of this year and into jan/feb 2021? Is it really gonna be as bad as some say or was it hyped up for election and now going to be downplayed since Biden won? Seems like the death rate is very low now, perhaps covid has evolved to a mild flu in severity?
All depends on vaccine distribution and efficacy.
 

Intrepid

Captain
How do yall see the general covid situation playing out in the US for rest of this year and into jan/feb 2021? Is it really gonna be as bad as some say or was it hyped up for election and now going to be downplayed since Biden won? Seems like the death rate is very low now, perhaps covid has evolved to a mild flu in severity?
The governors are doing a good job even though Trump is still president.
 

KYli

Captain
How do yall see the general covid situation playing out in the US for rest of this year and into jan/feb 2021? Is it really gonna be as bad as some say or was it hyped up for election and now going to be downplayed since Biden won? Seems like the death rate is very low now, perhaps covid has evolved to a mild flu in severity?

Death rate is low now due to the fact that most doctors now have ample of experience to treat coronavirus. A few months ago, coronavirus was a mystery and most doctors don't have any idea how to deal all the symptoms and what are the best medicine to prescribe. Beside in the early days, many patients dead in their home, on the way to the hospitals, long term care facilities, or gave up by doctors. Many countries with ample of health resources have outperformed the US and able to keep the death rate less than 1%. Low death rate now is nothing to brag about and it is still ten times more than the most severe flu.

Vaccine is too late for the Jan/Feb surge. The only hope is the Thanksgiving and Christmas wouldn't cause a dramatic surge of patients due to family gathering and parties. We might be looking at 300,000 to 500,000 cases per day if people decided to ignore the rules and what is good for their family. However, if vaccines work, we might see a better summer ahead.
 

KYli

Captain
Church and religious groups have always been a super spreader but guess politics is more important than well being of citizens.
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In a 5-4 ruling, Supreme Court sides with religious groups in a dispute over Covid-19 restrictions in New York
 

KYli

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Not how many people dead but the mortality rate. At the beginning of the pandemic, NY has like more than 1/4 of mortality rate for people who hospitalized with coronavirus. Now it is 8%.

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Some believe that the shift in infections from old to young is the primary explanation for the drop in mortality. A
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concluded that the relationship between infection fatality rate and age may be exponential. The researchers found that the age-specific infection fatality rate was extremely low among children and young adults, measuring 0.002% at age 10 and 0.01% at 25. However, the rate progressively increased with age, growing from 0.4% at 55 to around 15% at 85.

Yet some studies show that mortality has decreased among older patients, too. In a cohort of more than 5,000 hospitalized COVID-19 patients at NYU, researchers found that mortality rates dropped 18 percentage points from the start of the pandemic, falling from 26% in March to 8% in August.
 

supercat

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I am a bit concerned that they havn't released efficacy rates. I actually think its likely that the efficacy rate is too high (ie. 98%+) rather than being too low (since its an inactivated vaccine that allows the body to eat the whole virus), and might be at a loss of credibility.
It's indeed the possible case. The researchers are being very careful. If you look at the phase 2 data in the table, at 14 days the effective rate was 98.3% and at 28 days it was 99.2%.
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Sao Paolo's Governor has had it with Bolsonaro's trump loving white supremacist support role; he's going ahead with Sinovac's vaccine.
Bolsonaro is really a U.S. lackey who does not care about the welfare of his own people.

On the other hand, Turkey has signed contract to buy 50 million doses from Sinovac:
Turkey signs 50 million dose COVID-19 vaccine deal, health minister says
Turkey has signed a contract to buy 50 million doses of COVID-19 vaccine from China’s Sinovac Biotech, Health Minister Fahrettin Koca said on Wednesday.

“We have signed a contract for 50 million doses of vaccines to be delivered in the months of December, January and February,” Koca told a news conference.
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Crang

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Questions over AstraZeneca's COVID-19 vaccine data

Days after grabbing headlines with its COVID-19 'vaccine for the world', AstraZeneca is facing tricky questions about its success rate that some experts say could hinder its chances of getting speedy U.S. and EU regulatory approval.

 

Tyler

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It's indeed the possible case. The researchers are being very careful. If you look at the phase 2 data in the table, at 14 days the effective rate was 98.3% and at 28 days it was 99.2%.
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Bolsonaro is really a U.S. lackey who does not care about the welfare of his own people.

On the other hand, Turkey has signed contract to buy 50 million doses from Sinovac:

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How effective are the vaccines from Sinovac?
 

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