Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

Franklin

Captain
That is clearly not true There are a few sites out there providing timely updates on the total number of infection but there is a timing and a time lag in their updates. The important numbers are the ones coming from the Hubei province which is only updated,once a day and there is a time lag in updates by those sites. You will notice that there is a big jump in the numbers but only when the daily number from Hubei province is updated by those sites. I personally go to the source and that is the Hubei government site which provides the update. The infection is not slowing and in fact is doubling every three days. Other cities in the Hubei province are starting to look like Wuhan 10 days ago. The number of people in Hubei that is under medical observation but not confirmed has exceeded 58,000 of which 10,000 of that number were added just a day ago.

Here are the numbers.
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Interesting data. So half of all the confirmed infected in China are just in 6 cities. A lot of the rise in numbers after the lockdown are from people who were already infected and are now only showing symptons. When it will peak no one knows.

PS can you provide a link to the data.
 

s002wjh

Junior Member
That's because the US can get away with anything since it controls the narrative through its control of the western media.
get away with what? look at Trump, he just hint Ukraine to investigate Biden, now he is on impeachment trail, you think Xi gonna get impeachment if he is doing the same.
 

Brumby

Major
You guys are so predictable. It typically doesn't take long before the thread turns into a country, entity or person bashing exercise.

Please exercise self discipline and stick to the subject of the thread.
 

Brumby

Major
Interesting data. So half of all the confirmed infected in China are just in 6 cities. A lot of the rise in numbers after the lockdown are from people who were already infected and are now only showing symptons. When it will peak no one knows.

PS can you provide a link to the data.
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s002wjh

Junior Member
You guys are so predictable. It typically doesn't take long before the thread turns into a country, entity or person bashing exercise.

Please exercise self discipline and stick to the subject of the thread.
sry about that, just seen too many ppl say the news is anti-china/anti-ccp, well there are certainly news like that, but its case by case base.
 

localizer

Colonel
Registered Member
sry about that, just seen too many ppl say the news is anti-china/anti-ccp, well there are certainly news like that, but its case by case base.
lol too many people? how many english speaking Chinese are there to be “too much”


What’s the appropriate amount of people who should say the news is anti China and anti ccp?

@Brumby show us how you modeled the number of infected and maybe then we won’t treat you like a kid
 
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solarz

Brigadier
The number of confirmed cases seems to have plateaued. Typically they added 3000 people of confirmed people everyday. Except yesterday, only a couple of hundred were added. The whole country going into qurantine really helps.

I'm still seeing increases in the thousands. Perhaps you were just seeing a data lag?

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Another source :

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KYli

Brigadier
which is fake news? CNN/CBS? i read it every day, if you refer to youtube, or some 3rd rated gossip, there are plenty those around. heck there is even US news say 911 was conspire by Bush. Have you read CNN/CBS or other news bashing/slander of Trump? you stay in US long enough you gonna notice the news media bash Everyone. The current political environment is toxic, democracy and republican are constantly bashing/exaggerate/ news against each other, that include news media as well.

I probably lived in the US longer than you do. So don't lecture me how the media in the US do things. I still remember how the US media manipulate the public opinion in order to gear up support for the invasion of Iraq.

Fake News for you. There are hundreds and thousands more fake news about China that a reasonable person can find on internet.
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s002wjh

Junior Member
lol too many people? how many english speaking Chinese are there to be “too much”


What’s the appropriate amount of people who should say the news is anti China and anti ccp?

@Brumby show us how you modeled the number of infected and maybe then we won’t treat you like a kid

every time i get on this forum there several at least, saying every single piece news is anti-china, some may be true but not all. if you compare how CNN and some other news bashing trump vs their news on china, you gonna find the news on trump is even more toxic. republican calling CNN=Clinton News Network. i cancel my cable long time ago cause i find the news some time too toxicated , whether is reporting on trump or clinton or others.
 
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plawolf

Lieutenant General
I think there is now enough data to form a very preliminary assessment of the situation.

Clearly Wuhan is a massive outlier when it comes to fatalities, and personally, I think the current 2-3% mortality rate is massively inflated if you remove Wuhan.

The reasoning for me making such a significant dataset from the whole is because of the very special circumstances of the outbreak in Wuhan.

During the initial phases of the outbreak, there is a critically important short period where the correct medical information and procedures were not yet widely circulated.

That resulted in huge overcrowding in Wuhan hospitals, with patients taking none of the recommended protective measures. So you ended op having large numbers of people all crammed into enclosed spaces for extended periods of time, usually together with several infected.

That not only helped the virus to spread like wildfire, it also meant many of the earlier sufferers where exposed to heavy doses of the virus for prolonged periods of hours or even days.

As any half decent medical professional will tell you, the concentration and duration of the viral exposure has a direct impact on the severity of the infection, and thus also the mortality rate.

As such, I think the initial phase of the infection had a much higher mortality rate than is typical of this virus because of the heavy viral load those sufferers where initially exposed to.

Subsequent sufferers who were exposed to less concerted doses of the virus for shorter periods had much better survival rates as a direct consequence. But in a wider outbreak, now that we know what this thing is; odds are people are going to be exposed to low concentration doses of the virus; and as such, the mortality rates outside of Wuhan’s initial wave of sufferers may be a much better predictive model of the likely wider mortality rates.
 
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