Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)


ChineseToTheBone

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India just experienced the highest number of deaths globally in the past 24 hours, where they slightly edged out the United States and Brazil.

One major error by their government when first implementing the shutdown of many economic activities was definitely their handling of migrant workers from rural areas, in which the lockdown actually pushed them into becoming mobile and travelling back home from urban areas that had been affected by the pandemic into the vast countryside. This basically seeded every state and nearly every region with cases, as these migrant workers brought the pandemic home to formerly untouched areas where they possessed lesser medical capacities.
 

emblem21

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India just experienced the highest number of deaths globally in the past 24 hours, where they slightly edged out the United States and Brazil.

One major error by their government when first implementing the shutdown of many economic activities was definitely their handling of migrant workers from rural areas, in which the lockdown actually pushed them into becoming mobile and travelling back home from urban areas that had been affected by the pandemic into the vast countryside. This basically seeded every state and nearly every region with cases, as these migrant workers brought the pandemic home to formerly untouched areas where they possessed lesser medical capacities.
Something of interest just very recently, this virus has struck yet another member of the Trump administration (
) Robert O’Brien who is the national security advisor who is a known war hawk. Sooner or later, none of the government leadership will be unscathed by this virus. Especially since they are trying to push for the opening of the country regardless of the dangers, this is almost bound to happen. If either Trump or Biden gets this virus, it is almost guaranteed that things will go straight to hell
 

localizer

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Something of interest just very recently, this virus has struck yet another member of the Trump administration (
) Robert O’Brien who is the national security advisor who is a known war hawk. Sooner or later, none of the government leadership will be unscathed by this virus. Especially since they are trying to push for the opening of the country regardless of the dangers, this is almost bound to happen. If either Trump or Biden gets this virus, it is almost guaranteed that things will go straight to hell



Ignorance and hating Chinese seem to go hand in hand.
 

ansy1968

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Duterte seeking Chinese vaccine for the Philippines.

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Hi Tam,

Ever since he is elected as president , he is implementing an independent foreign policy that is center in the ASIAN region. I think they had an agreement with Xi that if the vaccine is available the phil will be able to received some batches. And he said it publicly in his state of the nation address. I hope Xi deliver, cause it will really boost duterte and China standing in the PHIL.
 

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This is the most important part. As can be seen in youtube videos, in Wuhan, the mildly infected are isolated and put in re purpose exhibition halls and make shift hospitals. There are even videos circulating people are forcibly separated from their families. So this effectively break the transmission chain at house level. We can see old people separated from their children, husbands separated from wives, babies separated from mothers.

And the most important thing if people has to go to these isolation facilities, people dont have to pay and they were feed. This isolation part is where most countries failed to do. They just generalized isolating infected patients at home is ok. It is not, it just increase chances to spread to other family members.

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Those isolation facilities are now known to have been key in China's ability to stop the virus. However, the early reports of these quarantine centres were widely derided by the media as draconian and some sort of communist crime against humanity.
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Even if the media did not present the story this way, most people already conditioned in their mind to think so. You could always count oh comments like "When do they gas them?", "Chinazi concentration camp", "DEMOCRACY RULEZZ, COMMIES DROOL", etc.
 

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Duterte seeking Chinese vaccine for the Philippines.

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Hi Tam,

China had answered Duterte plea.

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China has promised to give the Philippines “priority” access to a vaccine it is developing against the new coronavirus disease (COVID-19), Malacañang said on Friday.

Chinese President Xi Jinping gave this assurance to President Rodrigo Duterte during their 38-minute telephone conversation on Thursday night.

“President Xi reiterated China’s commitment to the international community to make any vaccine it develops a global public good and that as a friendly neighbor, China certainly considers the Philippines as a priority,” Malacañang said in a statement.

The President “emphasized the imperative of making vaccines accessible and affordable to all countries, including the Philippines,” it said.

Both leaders vowed to boost bilateral, regional and global efforts to combat COVID-19, stressing international solidarity to address the pandemic’s health and socio-economic impact.

Mr. Duterte has been warming ties between Beijing and Manila since he took office in 2016 by setting aside the international arbitral tribunal ruling in favor of the Philippines that invalidated China’s expansive claims over the South China Sea.

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PHONE CALL President Duterte on Thursday night spoke on the phone with Chinese President Xi Jinping who assured Filipinos they will get priority access to a COVID-19 vaccine China was developing. Mr. Duterte is shown here delivering his Independence Day message to the nation via a television hookup from Davao City to the ceremonies held at Rizal Park in Manila on Friday. —NIÑO JESUS ORBETA

Supply chain
Describing the phone call as “productive, open and focused,” Malacañang said both leaders also exchanged “crucial strategies to restart economies under the new normal.”

Mr. Duterte received Xi’s commitment to ensure supply chain connectivity in critical medical supplies and equipment and the free flow of goods, and the resumption and completion of priority infrastructure projects in the Philippines.

For his part, Xi thanked the Philippines for supporting China’s own fight against COVID-19 through its “goodwill donation” to the city of Wuhan, the capital of central China’s Hubei province where SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes the severe respiratory disease, originated.

Malacañang said Xi described this as one of the Philippines’ “acts of kindness that shall be returned many times more.”

Clinical trials
The Philippine government also signified its interest in taking part in clinical trials for potential vaccines being developed by Chinese biopharmaceutical companies, Malacañang said.

The Chinese state-run Xinhua news agency reported early this month that China’s inactivated COVID-19 vaccine was expected to complete clinical trials and could be ready for the market as early as the end of this year or early next year.

It said China National Biotec Group (CNBG), a subsidiary of the China National Pharmaceutical Group (Sinopharm), had two such vaccines under Phase-2 clinical trials and had increased its vaccine production capacity.

More than 2,000 people had received the vaccines, and clinical data verified their safety and efficacy, the report said.

CNBG had built a plant that could produce 100 to 120 million of the vaccines yearly and another factory in Wuhan will be completed by the end of June or early July for a combined capacity of 200 million per year, the report said.

615 new PH cases
At the Department of Health (DOH), official data on Friday showed that the number of confirmed COVID-19 cases in the Philippines was still rising with an additional 615 cases, pushing the national total to 24,787.

These included 336 who tested positive within the last three days. Metro Manila, with 97, accounted for the most number followed by Central Visayas which had 92.

The DOH recorded the biggest single-day increase in recovered patients of 289, bringing the total to 5,454.

The death toll increased by 16 to 1,052.

Subgroups for testing
The health department has created two additional subgroups that will be tested for the virus but persons classified under these subgroups will not be immediately tested, according to Health Undersecretary Maria Rosario Vergeire.

“Even if you are included in the subgroup, you should still have had close contact with a probable or confirmed COVID-19 case before undergoing testing,” she said.

“This means you have had face-to-face interaction with a confirmed case within a meter and for more than 15 minutes; direct physical contact with a confirmed case; or directly took care of a probable or confirmed case without wearing personal protective equipment,” she added.

One, called Subgroup E, are front-liners indirectly involved in the health response against COVID-19. They include persons manning temporary treatment facilities, quarantines, control points and swabbing centers; members of the national/regional/local risk reduction and management teams; barangay health emergency response teams and members of barangay officials providing barangay border control; personnel from the Bureau of Corrections and Bureau of Jail Management and Penology, and social workers doing relief efforts and other COVID-19-related tasks.

The other, Subgroup F, includes other vulnerable persons—pregnant women about to give birth, dialysis and cancer patients and persons living with HIV; those who will undergo high-risk, elective surgery, and prisoners and others living in confined spaces. —WITH A REPORT FROM JOVIC YEE AND XINHUA
 

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This is the most important part. As can be seen in youtube videos, in Wuhan, the mildly infected are isolated and put in re purpose exhibition halls and make shift hospitals. There are even videos circulating people are forcibly separated from their families. So this effectively break the transmission chain at house level. We can see old people separated from their children, husbands separated from wives, babies separated from mothers.

And the most important thing if people has to go to these isolation facilities, people dont have to pay and they were feed. This isolation part is where most countries failed to do. They just generalized isolating infected patients at home is ok. It is not, it just increase chances to spread to other family members.

These forceful tactics will never work in the US. People are still protesting a mandate on mask wearing. If any of the forceful separation that you describe happens in the US, there will be an armed revolt. No doubt about it. Especially in the south, people will shoot you if you knock on their door without responding to "who is it?". Ever wondered why, in American movies, people knock on a door and then step away from the door and stand in the light with their hands placed in front of them? Guess what they will do to you if you want to take away their babies? Different culture, different tactics...
 

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The HEALS Act proposes a total of $29.4 billion in new military spending just a week after the House and Senate
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a $740.5 billion Pentagon budget for fiscal year 2021.

"Last time I checked F-35s don't help families pay their bills," Rep. Chuy García (D-Ill.)
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in response to the GOP's proposal of $686 million in spending on new fighter jets.

The draft appropriations portion, made public Monday evening, includes money for fighter jets, helicopters, radars, ships, and armored vehicles that the measure's authors have deemed "emergency" spending that is not capped by the budget control law...
The top two defense contractors, Lockheed Martin Corp. and Boeing Co., would do especially well under the measure.
The list of weapons is topped by fully $1 billion for an unstated number of Boeing P-8 Poseidon maritime surveillance jets. Also on the list is $283 million for Boeing Apache helicopters for the Army.
Boeing's Ground-Based Midcourse Defense anti-missile system, which is aimed at intercepting incoming ballistic missiles from sites in Alaska and California, would receive $200 million, and $243 million more would go to a missile defense radar program.

Very nice, this is to buy up the F35's meant for Turkey.
 

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