Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

shanlung

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Brazi


Brazil is entering its winter.
The season probably has a minimal effect. Look at Brazil.


Then look at Singapore where year round daily temperature about 28 to 32 C .
And the numbers there much much higher than what that regime been telling the world.
Where over a Foreign Workers housed in Dormitories packed 20 to a room and sleeping on double decker beds having infection to date of only 3%, or 32,000 only.
Whereas those in cruise liners and aircraft carriers with much more personal space and distancing reported infections of 50% and more.

And Indonesia and India too.
 
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AssassinsMace

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I just saw on TV an interview with Alex Karp, the CEO of super secretive, Palantir. He said Palantir was used by 18 of the US's closest allies to help deal with Covid-19... Should he be on TV bragging about that? It was like watching a guy riding on Palantir's reputation alone because if the US was one of the clients, that ain't something to brag about.
 

hullopilllw

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I just saw on TV an interview with Alex Karp, the CEO of super secretive, Palantir. He said Palantir was used by 18 of the US's closest allies to help deal with Covid-19... Should he be on TV bragging about that? It was like watching a guy riding on Palantir's reputation alone because if the US was one of the clients, that ain't something to brag about.

Quite a huge failure considering the hardest are mostly allies like Britain, and western europe. Isnt the founder Thiel applying for New Zealand citizenship ?
 

hullopilllw

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A dodgy dossier? Propaganda?

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Australian farmers should sue News Corp for damage arising from the trade issue with China, after all this is the huge leak that spark of the whole Australian gov Wuhan Lab witch hunting campaign no ?

Also sue the US gov for forcing the Chinese to sign an unequal trade deal that put Australian farmers at disadvantage.
 

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I saw the news earlier and looked at articles from three different news sources on the same subject to understand why the professor said that the Oxford vaccine trial has only 50% chance of success. I came away with the conclusion that has nothing to do with the vaccine's performance, but rather due to the number of daily infected persons in UK is getting smaller and so there may not be enough patients to successfully complete Phase 3 trial - the same issue China is facing on her current vaccine trials.
It seems more complicated than that. Unlike the vaccine from China's Sinvac that protected the monkeys completely, all the monkeys in the Oxford vaccine trial were infected when challenged.
The day after data appeared from the vaccine maker Sinovac showed complete protection of rhesus monkeys by their vaccine candidate (whole inactivated SARS-CoV-2 virus particles), scientists from the Jenner Institute in Oxford issued a press release announcing that their vaccine (an adenovirus vector based vaccine that carried the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein) worked to protect rhesus monkeys and that they were moving forward with large scale human safety trials. At the time, the substantiating data was not available. Now it is, in the form of a May 13 BioRxiv preprint. Does the data support the claim?

Not really. All of the vaccinated monkeys treated with the Oxford vaccine became infected when challenged, as judged by recovery of virus genomic RNA from nasal secretions. There was no difference in the amount of viral RNA detected from this site in the vaccinated monkeys as compared to the unvaccinated animals. Which is to say, all vaccinated animals were infected. This observation is in marked contrast to the results reported from Sinovac trial. At the highest dose studied, no virus was recovered from vaccinated monkeys from the throat, lung, or rectum of the vaccinated animals.

There is a second troubling result of the Oxford paper. The titer of neutralizing antibody, as judged by inhibition of virus replication by successive serum dilutions as reported is extremely low. Typically, neutralizing antibodies in effective vaccines can be diluted by more than a thousand fold and retain activity. In these experiments the serum could be diluted only by 4 to 40 fold before neutralizing activity was lost. Again, by contrast the titer of neutralizing antibodies in the serum of those vaccinated with whole inactivated SARS-CoV-2 was high.

What then is the argument for pressing forward with the adenovirus vector SARS-CoV-2 spike protein vaccine?

The authors present evidence to the effect that, although the vaccine did not protect the animals from infection, it did moderate the disease.
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How China is managing to reopen schools:

Situation in the U.S. on May 26:
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Situation in China on May 26, excluding HK, Macau, and TW:
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