Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

who knows, maybe Lukashenka is right as in
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Belarus was relatively ok until 2 days ago if they have been successful with contact tracing. But the problem now is the number has doubled over past 2 days which makes it very difficult to continue contact tracing. Time for a new approach.
 
I now got emotional, at the point when personnel in corridors is cheering the patient who's survived in an intensive care unit, in this report (toward its end, sorry I won't watch it again to post the timing):
 

Quickie

Colonel
I assume you've reacted to my kind of casual point Yesterday at 7:46 PM
"(but of course one might claim a already infected foreigner visited Wuhan and so on, LOL)"

my main point has been "if the virus didn't originate in China, there would be an outbreak in other-than-China country last year, I guess"

I wouldn't be too quick to draw a conclusion from just 160 genome samples in the analysis.

The outbreak in Wuhan and east Asia mainly comes from Variant B. Variant A, which predates Variant B, were found in China, East Asia, Europe, Australia with the latter 3 having the bigger proportion compared to China. This surprised the analysts in the study (I am presuming) because China should have the larger proportion if it's the source of the Variant A that have further mutated to the Variant B.

A much bigger genome samples encompassing all the major geographic areas would give a better analysis.
 
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Intrepid

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For weeks now, agriculture with its needs and worries has been an issue in the media ... has nobody in the United States started organizing the state of emergency?
 
I wouldn't be too quick to draw a conclusion from just 160 genome samples in the analysis.

The outbreak in Wuhan and east Asia mainly comes from Variant B. Variant A, which predates Variant B, were found in China, East Asia, Europe, Australia with the latter 3 having the bigger proportion compared to China. This surprised the analysts in the study (I am presuming) because China should have the larger proportion if it's the source of the Variant A that have further mutated to the Variant B.

A much bigger genome samples encompassing all the major geographic areas would give a better analysis.
Yesterday at 7:46 PM I didn't have any "160 genome samples" in mind;
what I had in mind was my belief of a new virus first causing trouble where it originated, and later causing trouble elsewhere:
if the virus didn't originate in China, there would be an outbreak in other-than-China country last year, I guess

(but of course one might claim a already infected foreigner visited Wuhan and so on, LOL)

'sometimes a cigar is just a cigar' according to Dr. Freud
 
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Quickie

Colonel
Yesterday at 7:46 PM I didn't have any "160 genome samples" in mind;
what I had in mind was my belief of a new virus first causing trouble where it originated, and later causing trouble elsewhere:


'sometimes a cigar is just a cigar' according to Dr. Freud

You are serious? A cigar is a cigar until you realize someone is playing a prank on you!

As I have implied, there is no concrete proof yet Variant A originated in China. No patient zero, and they can't find the animal hosting the variant A in China.

The closest animal hosted virus the Chinese can get is the bat corona virus which yielded a sequence similarity of 96.2% with the Covid-9 virus, which in genomic terms should be night and day? Remember, our closest relative, the chimp, even has a better similarity to human genome of 96 percent, notwithstanding RNA genome mutate more easily but here we are talking about a time-frame of a number of years or decades, not millions of years.
 
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localizer

Colonel
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I would say, it actually makes sense to deliberately infect (some) with the average dose of the vaccine.

You'll get some preliminary results on effectiveness, which means it could be used for medical personnel during the Autumn infection wave which is likely.
Nah they would never risk another outbreak.

Also, testing on thousands of medical workers would be larger dataset.
 
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