Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

supercat

Major
I will say that, going through the domestic forums, this relaxation is unsurprisingly being taken as a slap in the face, especially by COVID vulnerable groups who understandably feel like they're now being left out in the dust.
It would be really unfortunate if China's zero-COVID policy gave some people a false sense of security and misled them to defer vaccination and getting booster shot.

Two more COVID vaccines were approved for emergency use. So a total of 4 vaccines, including a new nasal-spray vaccine, were approved for emergency use in the past a few days.
Sinocelltech, Clover Soar as Vaccine Makers’ Covid-19 Jabs Are Approved for Use in China
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Recombinant COVID-19 Vaccine - Coviccine Developed by WestVac Biopharma/West China Hospital of Sichuan University Approved for Emergency Use
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Most of the protests come from university students. University students are the one that are extremely prone to protest and liberalism due to highly exposed to foreign media. Banning foreign media should be the first step to reduce foreign influence on students, either it is newspaper or cinemas. There is also a move to make foreign languages optional, which I think is the right move. In the long term, China should not allow the use of foreign languages in their territory. China will be number one soon and using barbarian languages is a disgraceful acts, considering what the barbarians had done in the past (century of humiliation).
Dude, we already know you're an Indian larping on this forum to make everybody here look crazy, you can drop the act.
 

Quickie

Colonel
The situation in Guangzhou is somewhat encouraging so far:

"No deaths among 160K cases in Guangzhou, only 4 severe symptom patients, all w/underlying diseases"

That is what I was thinking. China has been logging like over a million infection cases for months with like single-digit deaths. That would be like a fatality rate of 1 out of over 100,000 cases. I wanted to comment on this but refrained from doing it because of a lack of available information.

I think this is the main reason for China deciding to start opening up now, the very low fatality rate and very low number of severe cases.
 

EtherealSmoke

New Member
Registered Member
New policies dropped. Restrictions being lifted wholesale. One of the big ones is no more testing for travel.


It's done. When the people jump, you have to jump with them. Time to leap.

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Quickie

Colonel
I would caution you that the last outbreak in Shanghai there is over 500 deaths. And it also takes at least one month to 6 weeks for most deaths to occur.

Yes, I'm aware of the time period to death, about 2 to 3 weeks on average.

I believe the 160K cases in Guangzhou were logged during the past months or so more than enough time for the deaths to come through.

China will have to be very much aware of the more virulent variants of the virus coming through to the population though.
 

TK3600

Captain
Registered Member
This is completely stupid to follow a minority to open before spring festival.
New policies dropped. Restrictions being lifted wholesale. One of the big ones is no more testing for travel.


It's done. When the people jump, you have to jump with them. Time to leap.

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The majority supports the dynamic zero policy. We held for 3 years and these government idiot cannot wait 2 month? Hong Kong next door had thousands dead this season. If they fuck up then I would actually ask them to resign lol.
 
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The majority supports the dynamic zero policy.
What anecdotes do you have to support this notion?

I guess there will always be proponents for the draconian aspect of zero Covid. But like I and many others here, who have based their opinions not just from observations around us, but testimonies from friends/family back home, this policy change was long overdue. Simply put China is not in the same situation as most advanced countries that have the luxury of a strong social safety net. When people were hit by lockdowns in the West, the compensations they received from the government were, generous to the say the least.

This wasn't the case in China where migrant workers, especially in the third year of zero covid, were often left to rot during hard lockdown. Much has been said already about the economic damages of zero covid, so I'm not going to beat a dead horse anymore. But more to the point, perhaps people could have been persuaded to put up with zero covid if the virus's severity still warranted it. The thing is though, nothing today suggests that. Sure you can bring up the statistics of people who are still dying globally from COVID, irrespective of how many of those are vaccinated. But humans are emotional creatures and images speak more to emotions than data.

Already people in China were showing signs of being fed up with zero covid during the second year of the virus. But the images and videos around of world of a virus that was still very much deadly, perhaps most encapsulated by Indians having to burn their dead in parking lots, was sure enough going to scare people into putting up with it. That's not the case with Omicron where, yeah people are still dying, but by and large as long as you are vaccinated it has all the severity of a flu and not many countries are seeing their medical systems overwhelmed despite being fully reopened.

Now yes, I agree vaccinating vulnerable populations is still a priority, which frankly the government should've gotten cracking on as soon as Omicron broke out. Whatever mistakes they made in the past year, its done. Now all we can focus on is the future and finally getting out of this situation through mass vaccinations, mask wearing, sanitary measures etc.
 

lube

Junior Member
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There's no escaping the hard numbers.
From Hong Kong. 15% of 80+ unvaccinated died from Omicron.
A bit more if you include 1 dosed and people who had their 2nd dose too late.

What's the current number left in China, 20 million?

Of course now there's the problem of people not having a recent vaccine dose increasing the chances of catching more severe COVID.
 
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