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supercat

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China's next steps in the COVID fight:
  • Universal vaccination and boosters
  • Timely and effective treatment of critically ill patients
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Q&A: How to protect vulnerable populations from COVID

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Exclusive: Strong immunity and safety for the elderly – CNBG reveals key data from clinical research of COVID-19 vaccination in seniors
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The Beijing municipal government has denied some rumors.
 

AssassinsMace

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The US isn't giving their vaccine for free to China. They hope to make trillions of dollars from yearly plus vaccines from China going into the foreseeable future. You know how the US propaganda claims China's vaccine is inferior because it didn't have a high efficacy like Pfizer's and Moderna's claimed with its first shots? Guess what? The new vaccine they have that covers Omicron variants only has at most a 57% efficacy. China's first vaccine was better than that in the high 60s yet somehow considered inferior. China's vaccine was used all over the world and those countries didn't suffer as many deaths as the king of COVID deaths, the US.

Today more vaccinated Americans are dying from COVID than unvaccinated Americans. That means it's the old supposedly superior vaccine because something like less than 30% of people who were vaccinated previously are taking the new shot that covers Omicron variants.
 
China's next steps in the COVID fight:
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The Beijing municipal government has denied some rumors.

Honestly CPC again has shown capability to govern responsibly by slowly opening up from Covid. The goal was never to eradicate COVID. Goal is to manage opening to Covid at minimal risk to public health and ensure that the health care service can reasonably handle the number for cases without overshooting the capacity of the health care facilities.

The 1.1 million death in the US really downplays the human toll attributable to COVID. The US conveniently ignore the indirect death and suffering caused by Covid when the general public are denied health care services because the hospitals were overwhelmed. A better gauge of the suffering is the reduction of life expectancy in the US which was significant larger that the 1.1 million death attributable to COVID.
 

Overbom

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It would be shocking if that's the case but I very much doubt so. The only question is why the delay in vaccination for the oldest age groups although quick gains were made recently.
This has been talked for years already.
The answer is the same, incompetence.

They waited 2 years to understand that they should have pushed for elderly vaccinations. That's why I say its incompetence. What were they doing for 2 years messing around then?
 

tankphobia

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Honestly CPC again has shown capability to govern responsibly by slowly opening up from Covid. The goal was never to eradicate COVID. Goal is to manage opening to Covid at minimal risk to public health and ensure that the health care service can reasonably handle the number for cases without overshooting the capacity of the health care facilities.

The 1.1 million death in the US really downplays the human toll attributable to COVID. The US conveniently ignore the indirect death and suffering caused by Covid when the general public are denied health care services because the hospitals were overwhelmed. A better gauge of the suffering is the reduction of life expectancy in the US which was significant larger that the 1.1 million death attributable to COVID.
I think it's too early to tell whether the opening will be as smooth as predicted, we're just in the beginning of re-opening, basically what the rest of the world was at around a year ago if we're going by vaccination rates, it's too early to sing the high praise of how many lives were saved.
 

Biscuits

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This has been talked for years already.
The answer is the same, incompetence.

They waited 2 years to understand that they should have pushed for elderly vaccinations. That's why I say its incompetence. What were they doing for 2 years messing around then?
Regardless of what the western government press copes about, China broadly does not have as much power to enforce draconian mandates or lockdowns as intelligence agency led oligarchies have.

If old ppl don't wanna take a vaccine because there is low levels of disease and they want to be selfish to have their cake and eat it too, we are not the west, we can't just say "well then you die or we forcibly vaccinate you". We have to work through educating the masses.
 

Petrolicious88

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This has been talked for years already.
The answer is the same, incompetence.

They waited 2 years to understand that they should have pushed for elderly vaccinations. That's why I say its incompetence. What were they doing for 2 years messing around then?
It was driven by politics. China has the resource to ramp up vaccination among the elderly. But Xi said we must maintain zero Covid. Who’s going to go against Xi right before the Party Congress.

Now that the meeting is over, we are seeing loosening of restrictions because Xi said so despite the fact that it’s winter flu season.
 
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