Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)


AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
@SteelBird bro it was what governance is all about. Us here in the Philippine had a lockdown for 3 weeks and the effect is profound, from a high case rate of 18,000 per day it's now 4,340 yesterday and we're able to do it with less resource. Brother its election fever here in the metropolis and my friend often ask me whom to vote, the obvious answer is Duterte like candidate, why? without Duterte as President we will have riots in the street which will target us Hua Qiao as the elites and its cohorts in gov't will often do to deflect the problem and absolved their incompetency.
Yes the West has moved on from thinking they would be able to handle an outbreak better than most because they failed there to hiding behind vaccine efficacy. But now cases are rising in Great Britain who claims to have high vaccinations and with better vaccines. They also forget how the claims they were making about how Chinese vaccines being ineffective because the immunity didn't last long are now happening to their vaccines. And what happened to the all-important T-cells count that spells long lasting immunity that their vaccines were producing?
 

BlackWindMnt

Junior Member
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What is the difference between herd immunity reached by vaccine and natural exposure? None.

People have been repeatedly contracted influenza, and every year people take flu vaccines.

All these is telling that your "natural exposure" is BS.
Its like people went herp derp on vaccines. It already tells you the decline in western people and their trust in their authorities.
There's a reason why some travel vaccines are only strong enough for like 3 or 5 etc years.

@SteelBird bro it was what governance is all about. Us here in the Philippine had a lockdown for 3 weeks and the effect is profound, from a high case rate of 18,000 per day it's now 4,340 yesterday and we're able to do it with less resource. Brother its election fever here in the metropolis and my friend often ask me whom to vote, the obvious answer is Duterte like candidate, why? without Duterte as President we will have riots in the street which will target us Hua Qiao as the elites and its cohorts in gov't will often do to deflect the problem and absolved their incompetency.
Yeah that is the sad shit minorities no matter how loyal will be targeted by the majority. While I don't really experience these day, but when the original SARS happened around the early 2000s I did experienced it as a young child it was for the first time in then short life I felt as a outsider in my own country.
 
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daifo

Junior Member
Registered Member
You are proposing and enjoying the golden time at the expense of hundreds of thousands or millions of death of other people? That is anti-humanity and murderous.

Why don't you go out and naturally capture COVID and contribute to the herd immunity? And after breathing through the ventilator, come back here and laugh at the experience? And tell us how you become a new person after switching your bones? I myself would be very happy to watch all these to happen.

the troll has been ban, think he was another troll in the past name tom sellik
 

Bellum_Romanum

Senior Member
Registered Member
Its like people went herp derp on vaccines. It already tells you the decline in western people and their trust in their authorities.
There's a reason why some travel vaccines are only strong enough for like 3 or 5 etc years.


Yeah that is the sad shit minorities no matter how loyal will be targeted by the majority. While I don't really experience these day, but when the original SARS happened around the early 2000s I did experienced it as a young child it was for the first time in then short life I felt as a outsider in my own country.
Was this in Canada?
 

B.I.B.

Captain
I would like to see if I have understood certain aspects of the RNA vaccines. Firstly they don't give us complete protection because they only aimed at viruses that target the spike protein and if such a variant was to emerge that did not go through the spike protein, we are in deep do doos.
 

Bellum_Romanum

Senior Member
Registered Member
I am sorry for posting this aspect of fact to some of us who will suffer from the side effects of the vaccine. I wonder what would be the reactions of the people in China if the vaccines being used in the country would have these type of unfortunate effects. Not too long ago, I read that there's a Chinese mother who's trying to petition the Beijing government to answer for what happened to her daughter apparently dying from Covid-19 vaccines but according to the medical officials the death was unrelated to the vaccine, an explanation that didn't sit well with the grieving mother. A point of news that was immediately picked up by some western publications but were quickly hushed away since it didn't want to cause further damage to their own vaccines and vaccination drives due to the fact that their own set of Covid-19 vaccines have unfortunate side effects that were linked to untimely demise to a fair amount of people world wide.

The thing that bothers a lot of people in the west is the fact that these vaccine companies will not be held liable by the government if down the road the vaccines will be found to be faulty heaven forbid. The fact that the pharmaceutical companies managed to force governments from around the world I think is what pushes doubts or make the some of these conspiracies creep into the people's mindsets.

 

daifo

Junior Member
Registered Member
I am sorry for posting this aspect of fact to some of us who will suffer from the side effects of the vaccine. I wonder what would be the reactions of the people in China if the vaccines being used in the country would have these type of unfortunate effects. Not too long ago, I read that there's a Chinese mother who's trying to petition the Beijing government to answer for what happened to her daughter apparently dying from Covid-19 vaccines but according to the medical officials the death was unrelated to the vaccine, an explanation that didn't sit well with the grieving mother. A point of news that was immediately picked up by some western publications but were quickly hushed away since it didn't want to cause further damage to their own vaccines and vaccination drives due to the fact that their own set of Covid-19 vaccines have unfortunate side effects that were linked to untimely demise to a fair amount of people world wide.

The thing that bothers a lot of people in the west is the fact that these vaccine companies will not be held liable by the government if down the road the vaccines will be found to be faulty heaven forbid. The fact that the pharmaceutical companies managed to force governments from around the world I think is what pushes doubts or make the some of these conspiracies creep into the people's mindsets.


Knowing now that the efficacy decays dramatically over time, i wonder if they up the dosage level to point were there was a complication risk within a certain deviation , just to win the "efficacy" battle against other countries (ie china). It is something often claim what secretive authoritarian countries would do, but it is also what greedy capitalist/or politicians wanting to win election would also do too.
 

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