Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

[NiuBiDaRen]

India officially breaching the 200k daily figure .

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But the real numbers are likely 4-5x this. There is massive fudging of data taking place. (mostly in BJP controlled states)

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"In Ahmedabad, for instance, the state government had officially declared just 20 Covid-19 deaths on April 12. But Sandesh, a leading Gujarati newspaper, claimed that at least 63 people had died in just one government-run Covid-19 hospital in the city on the same day . In a report published in Sandesh on Tuesday, the paper claimed that its journalists had arrived at the figure by camping outside Ahmedabad Civil Hospital’s 1,200-bed dedicated Covid-19 wing for 17 hours, counting every dead body being brought out of the morgue from midnight to 5 pm on April 12.".

Such is the carnage that Crematoriums are melting.

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In India's most populous state UP- There is a massive mismatch between official numbers and COVID crematoriums.

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India fudging numbers isn't new, this was exposed long time back

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India is the silent super spreader of this virus and is largely responsible for the global COVID toll.

Jeez man this whole crematorium thing was what Westerners were using as evidence of Chinese coverup

 

[B.I.B.]

Now here is a real world study of Sinovac vaccine effectiveness
Araos said it had reduced hospitalizations by 85%, intensive care visits by 89% and deaths by 80%.

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Big Chile study finds Chinese vaccine slashes COVID deaths​

SANTIAGO, Chile (AP) — A real-world study of millions of Chileans who had received the Chinese-developed CoronaVac vaccine has found it 67% effective against symptoms and 80% against death from COVID-19, the South American country's Health Ministry said Friday.

Ministry adviser Rafael Araos said the study covered 10.5 million people, including 2.5 million who had received both doses of the vaccine and 1.5 million who had received a single dose between Feb. 2 and April 1.

It counted cases starting 14 days after application of the second dose of the vaccine, which in Chile was given 28 days after the first.

The vaccine has been widely used across the world, though not in the United States or Europe.

Araos said it had reduced hospitalizations by 85%, intensive care visits by 89% and deaths by 80%.

It is one of the broadest studies so far published of any of the vaccines used against the new coronavirus. Most previous studies were based on clinical studies of limited groups of thousands of people given the vaccines to test efficacy and safety

C'mon tell the full story. The Chileans have been using Pfizer as well.

 

[solarz]

Dude, all I'm saying is that communications with the public should be handled by dedicated PR departments and let technical bureaucrats focus on their jobs. All big companies have PR departments as well and regular employees are not allow to speak to the public on the companies' behalf without permission.

When you treat the public like morons, then eventually the public will become morons.

If you want the public to be intelligent and well informed, treat them like adults.

There is nothing wrong with top Chinese scientists speaking to the public with nuance scientific facts.

The devolution of American media into sound bites is a big part of the reason for their political polarization.

 

[voyager1]

When you treat the public like morons, then eventually the public will become morons.

If you want the public to be intelligent and well informed, treat them like adults.

There is nothing wrong with top Chinese scientists speaking to the public with nuance scientific facts.

The devolution of American media into sound bites is a big part of the reason for their political polarization.

Very good point on such actions treating the public as children may actually cause them to become idiotic in the future.

 

[NiuBiDaRen]

India is the silent super spreader of this virus and is largely responsible for the global COVID toll.

But they don't have the money to travel overseas.

Americans though...

I do see all of us wearing masks for another 6 to 7 years. How shall we live @ansy1968

 

[hashtagpls]

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For those who tried to claim that vegetarian indians were less likely to incubate pandemic viruses compared to the carnivore Chinese, let this set you to rights.

It's to be expected that the medieval levels of squalor found in india were bound to incubate much more deadlier and virulent diseases.

As for the mutations found in anglo nations like the UK and the US, i presume it is down to their practice of spitting in each others' mouths.

 

[Hendrik_2000]

C'mon tell the full story. The Chileans have been using Pfizer as well.

But the Chilean vaccination program use Sinovac vaccine to the tune of 80% only small percentage use Pfizer And this study is exclusively see the effectiveness of Sinovac vaccine

 

[AndrewS]

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For those who tried to claim that vegetarian indians were less likely to incubate pandemic viruses compared to the carnivore Chinese, let this set you to rights.

It's to be expected that the medieval levels of squalor found in india were bound to incubate much more deadlier and virulent diseases.

As for the mutations found in anglo nations like the UK and the US, i presume it is down to their practice of spitting in each others' mouths.

This graphic is particularly instructive.

You can see the Indian double mutation variant (red) is way more infectious than every other variant.

 

[KenC]

Cow dung melee as part of religious festival. Not hard to imagine why the epidemic cannot be controlled in India.

 

[B.I.B.]

This is right at the start of the IPL, the biggest annual sporting event. Currently, NZ has suspended flights for a fortnight. I guess they may extend it if the numbers keep going up. The worrying thing is that many of the passengers are carrying certificates indicating they were tested two days prior to departure and were virus free.