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getready

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South Korea finds no link between AstraZeneca vaccine and recent deaths​

South Korean health officials have found no link between the AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine and several recent deaths, reports Reuters:
Health officials had been investigating the deaths of eight people with underlying conditions who had adverse reactions after receiving AstraZeneca’s Covid-19 vaccine, but said they found no evidence that the shots played a role.
“We’ve tentatively concluded that it was difficult to establish any link between their adverse reaction after being vaccinated, and their deaths,” Korea Disease Control and Prevention Agency (KDCA) director Jeong Eun-kyeong told a briefing.
South Korea began vaccinating residents and workers at nursing homes and other at-risk individuals at the end of February, with 316,865 people having received their first shots as of Sunday.
No link? But adverse reaction from vaccine?
 

Tyler

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Another mRNA vaccine that is in the development in China claims to be able to preserve for 6 months under 2-8 degrees storage requirement.
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They need to get these mRNA vaccines ready quickly as they are more effective and the production can be ramped up faster. This will help in preventing local variants. This can speed up the resumption of traveling between China and other countries.
 

KYli

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Using only one type of vaccine has its advantages but also disadvantages. Although NZ doesn't have the urgency to vaccinate all its population like the UK and US.
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KYli

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They need to get these mRNA vaccines ready quickly as they are more effective and the production can be ramped up faster. This will help in preventing local variants. This can speed up the resumption of traveling between China and other countries.
Firstly, a few percentage difference in efficacy rate is meaningless especially when all clinical trials have different protocol and criteria making comparison impossible. Secondly, inactivated vaccines should be more resilient than other vaccines. Thirdly, production can not be ramped up quickly in China due to the fact that China doesn't have facilities that can be used for mRNA production. A new facility was built for mRNA for annual production of 120 million which is peanut compare with China's ability to produce other type of vaccines.. China has already planned 2.6 billion doses of vaccines this year and further expansion is on going. Lastly, resumption of travel between China and other countries this year is wishful thinking. Maybe Singapore, some SEA countries, and Hong Kong could have travel bubble with mainland but I am pessimistic.

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coolieno99

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  • Why did WHO not request the same data from USA and UK etc.? Or why did USA and UK not provide such data to WHO about the new variant, or the spike of new cases recently?
  • Why should this "refusal" to be public? Or is there such "refusal" at all?
  • Is this "refusal" to a SINGLE political charged American member of WHO? Or a refusal of WHO's official request?
  • Why do you think this data is even relevant? Or why should there even be such WHO visit in Wuhan to begin with? Isn't the whole thing of "Wuhan lab leak" being the reason of WHO being there? Do you really believe the "lab leak" for a moment? For most of us, it is a 100% conspiracy hoax from day one. For the same reason, the US army lab deserve more investigation than Wuhan lab.
Who give a rat ass of what US official says?!:mad: They are the ones fabricated and propagated the conspiracy theory in the first place.
Apparently they tried to divert attention away from U.S. bio-labs like Fort Detrick, and Lugar Center(Tbilisi, Georgia) and 23 other U.S. bio-labs scattered around the world. All of them operated by the U.S. Military.

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taxiya

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They need to get these mRNA vaccines ready quickly as they are more effective and the production can be ramped up faster. This will help in preventing local variants. This can speed up the resumption of traveling between China and other countries.
Besides what @KYli has said in #10,437, I also what to add another perspective.

Regardless efficiency on paper (91% vs. 85%), once something around 70% of population are inoculated the virus will stop community transmission. China is going to inoculate 40% by July, 70% may be around September. By that time there is no need for any vaccine in the meaningful sense. mRNA would be too late to be used in China. Considering the huge production capacity already planned for traditional vaccine, I don't see China going to massively produce mRNA vaccine even if it is trailed and approved.

The mRNA path by China is more of a technology preparedness for the future (next pandemic), rather than practical need today. It is similar to the ebola vaccine China made years ago.
 
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