COMAC C919

tphuang

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When dealing with the US its very prudent to always assume malice.

We will see if its malice by long how it takes for the issue to be resolved. If you see it dragging for a long time, you have your answer

engine issues with new aircraft is very common. the superjet issues are not simple. Please don't trivialize it with statements like
"When dealing with the US its very prudent to always assume malice."
when you don't know what happened there
 

Overbom

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engine issues with new aircraft is very common. the superjet issues are not simple. Please don't trivialize it with statements like
"When dealing with the US its very prudent to always assume malice."
when you don't know what happened there
I don't trivialize it. I just don't trust the US to build (help a) Boeing competitor. I consider it a non-trivial chance that this is malice. But I won't judge until I see how long it takes to resolve the issue.

Of course engine issues are common in a new aircraft, but I automatically go for the worst case, non-zero chance, scenario. Anyway, as I said, I am keeping an open mind for now. Hopefully this is just your usual engineering issues than something more sinister.

I personally don't trust anything involving the US
 

gadgetcool5

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The sooner they can get the CJ-1000A on that thing, the better.

Frankly they should already be working on the next generation of regional airliners and narrowbody airliners after the ARJ21 and C919. Both of those have taken so long to develop, they are already out of date. The next versions can be developed to use domestic engines from the start.
 

MwRYum

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The sooner they can get the CJ-1000A on that thing, the better.

Frankly they should already be working on the next generation of regional airliners and narrowbody airliners after the ARJ21 and C919. Both of those have taken so long to develop, they are already out of date. The next versions can be developed to use domestic engines from the start.
There's no shortcut with such things, because nobody would, in their right mind, raise a competitor by teaching the said competitor the ropes.

Exploring next-gen airframe(s) and such would be other institutions' job, right now COMAC need to prefect the C919, prepare the C929, and the production line to churn out C919 to fulfill those orders.
 

gelgoog

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It can happen. Because it uses CFM LEAP engines partly made by GE. GECAS airplane leasing corporation, a subsidiary of GE, might have ordered some aircraft for lease to others later. But do not count on it. Especially considering the poor shape GE is in financially right now.

PS: GECAS merged with ILFC to form AerCap. AerCap supposedly have 20 C919 aircraft on order.
 
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99PLAAFBalloons

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They probably got it from this, a press release of a 2012 LOI that brought the GECAS order to a stated 10+10:
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Some 2017ish COMAC webpages gave snapshots of the order book that included said 20 GECAS, e.g.
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The AerCap figure is most likely just this GECAS number folded in. There wasn't an English press release of this LOI from what I can find, so the English sources seem to be stuck on the 2010 GECAS 5+5 LOI
 

weig2000

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I don't how credible this news is: GE orders 20 C-919. Reported by Fu Qianxiao.


It can happen. Because it uses CFM LEAP engines partly made by GE. GECAS airplane leasing corporation, a subsidiary of GE, might have ordered some aircraft for lease to others later. But do not count on it. Especially considering the poor shape GE is in financially right now.

PS: GECAS merged with ILFC to form AerCap. AerCap supposedly have 20 C919 aircraft on order.

No biggies. It's also not news. GE has quite some stakes in the C919 project. It's the engine supplier (Leap-1C) as part of the engine manufacturing joint venture CFM which is a 50-50 joint company between GE and France's Snecma (Safran). GE is also a partner in
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with Chinese partner (AVIC) to develop and supply avionics to C919. In any case, these C919 that GE will purchase will be leased back to customers, most likely Chinese ones.
 
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