Could it be possible that C919 export internationally prior to saturating domestic market to leave a foothold? If some customer is interested and use it the endorsement is helpful in future exports; when domestic demand is fulfilled.
COMAC C919
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It is not "affiliated" with Al Jazeera. It literally is Al Jazeera's online tv channel and they are one of the most neutral news sources on the planet. Calling Al Jazeera as the CNN of the Middle East is quite a lame statement considering that Al Jazeera was banned in the US for years due to its coverage of US policies and wars.
As far as their credibility goes, I think most people who read this will be quite aware of their reputation for fearless reporting. Which is why they got banned in at least 20 countries at various times in the last couple of decades. But here is something that should tell you what sort of reporting they do:
CNN is a poor source on China because of their biased coverage, which happens to be a result of their allegiance to US policies. Same reason why Global Times is a poor source on the United States, because they have to toe the party line. None of those considerations apply to Al Jazeera's coverage here.
Even then, anyone who calls CNN or Global Times programs "random, low-quality Youtube content" would get laughed at.
You are not required to spend 20 minutes of your time to read anything. If you don't think a post is interesting or didn't go through the content, you can simply ignore it and move on. Or if you feel like you need to know "the points/questions that are interesting" then you should simply ask the original poster to give a summary.
I for one think that Arabic language coverage of C919 is very relevant to this thread and quite an interesting phenomenon.
by78
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That's highly unlikely to happen, and I doubt anyone in charge is even considering this as a viable strategy. Who's going to buy an untested plane when the country of origin has not yet flown a large number of them for a significant span of time to demonstrate its economic viability, safety, and reliability?
You know what will kill any potential future sales of Chinese-made planes? Bad reputation resulted from poor support. Learn how to properly support and maintain the planes in China first before venture out of China.
nope. COMAC bound to fulfil the domestic orders first. they have received tons of orders from domestic airliners.
next year second assembly line of C919 will be operational in Nanjing . and you will see the increase of production.
ARJ-21 is going to overseas soon. Indonesian airliner placed 36 units order.
There would be no hope for C919 export outside of China, if there was any threat to Boeing sales, the engine supply would dry up in a moment.
Look at what happened with Bombardier CSeries (now Airbus A220), Boeing got the US government to impose extraordinary penalties and then turned around and said "maybe we will drop the protest if you buy the Super Hornets" *wink*
Look at what happened with Bombardier CSeries (now Airbus A220), Boeing got the US government to impose extraordinary penalties and then turned around and said "maybe we will drop the protest if you buy the Super Hornets" *wink*
by78
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Banned in the US for years? Seriously? Where did you get that information from? And they are neutral how, because they were funded by a rich, hereditary oil Sheik/Emir?
CNN and Global Times are low-quality, period, and since this is a flagship military forum, anyone here who holds them in high regard would be justifiably laughed at, full stop.
No. This isn't how this works in the flagship military forums.
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This is getting quite offtopic now, so this will be my final post on the matter.
In my opinion, you were either unable to distinguish an Al-Jazeera program, which happens to be a major, credible global media network from a "random, low-quality Youtube content" or you have a habit of commenting on posts without going through the content. And now you are asking me to convince you that Al Jazeera are a neutral news source?
It is well known that the United States, among other things, put a lot of pressure on the Qatar Government to either close al jazeera down or to limit their coverage of US wars and policies in the middle east. If you are interested, you can read more about it here:
However, I do admit that the US govt has not banned Al Jazeera broadcasts within the US, but it was geoblocked by Al Jazeera themselves due to commercial reasons. But that hardly invalidates my point. The United states has both covertly and openly tried to censor al jazeera, as have other governments, including that of other 'oil sheiks' like UAE Jordan and other US allies.
Most companies are funded by wealthy people. It is completely okay for the financer to be a "hereditary" oil sheik or a hereditary/non-hereditary oligarch or capitalist billionaire.
This is neither CNN content nor Global Times content.
Thank you for linking to those forum rules. I'm quite sure there was no violation of those rules in the original post by tonyget:
- Al Jazeera is a reputable and neutral news source, unlike for example, CNN or The National Interest or Business Insider.
- The original poster clearly stated why he was sharing the video. He later also clearly described how to translate the transcript into english. I had no problem with translating it.
- The video is relevant to the topic of the thread as it is specifically about the C919
- The video has balanced and generally positive coverage of the C919 from a foreign source.
by78
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It seems that you hold Al Jazeera in high regard because you find agreeable its coverage of one narrow, non-technical subject, namely U.S. foreign policy.
Putting aside whether Al Jazeera is 'neutral' or respectable, which is a can of off-topic worms, may I ask how does Al Jazeera's reporting on U.S. foreign policy translate into competence in covering the COMAC 919 and the Chinese civil aviation industry? You seem to conflate the perceived neutrality of a news outlet with its competence in covering specialized technical subjects. Do you go to your trusted car mechanic for medical advice or tax preparation?
I don't know which forum rules you've been reading, but here's the relevant section, with the applicable parts underlined: "posting a link to a video that is a podcast or an "information video" (and thus more likely to be content of a "questionable quality") should be accompanied by an explanation for why it is being posted such as what section is relevant, what information is new, and to justify its presence overall."
As you can see, the original poster most definitely did not clearly spell out why he was sharing the video, because his statement is made up of merely four words: "Interesting view from Arabs". There was no explanation as to which part of the video is relevant or what information presented is new, not to mention the video does not at all purport to represent the "view(s) of Arabs".
None of the above criteria appeared in the amendments. Please don't misrepresent the rules, instead, make an effort to actually read them.
Where did you get the idea that I hadn't watched the video? For the record, I have watched it because my interest was piqued by OP's click-bait statement that it represented the views "from Arabs". Unfortunately, it was 20 minutes of my life that I will never get back. The first 12 minutes of the video was for all practical purposes a recitation of the on the abortive Y-10 passenger jet. The remaining eight minutes were spent skimming through the history of the C919, listing its parts vendors, only briefly touching on why China is pursuing the project and whether China will succeed. It was a laughably shallow video, nothing more than a regurgitation of open-source information haphazardly thrown together, complete with a click-bait title (How did China make the latest passenger plane? Will America kill the project?) whose central questions were barely touched on and never answered. It's about as sophisticated and well-put-together as a CNN investigative report. In other words, it's a big nothing-burger that presents nothing new or of value, nothing that we haven't already covered and discussed and debated ad nauseam and in much greater detail on this very thread, and absolutely nothing anyone couldn't find on Wikipedia, which presents the information in 29 languages so that there is no need to squint for 20 minutes trying to comprehend a machine translation of machine-generated subtitles. Most egregiously, contrary to OP's click-bait claim, the video doesn't present the views on the C919 "from Arabs".
What an utter waste of time and screen real estate!
Sharing this video here is akin to a high-school student excitedly posting his five-page presentation on Newtonian mechanics to an academic forum for physicists, complete with the click-bait title "Why Sir Isaac Newton Deeply Regretted Publishing Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia and Attempted To Retract It".
All of the above simply begs the burning question: you deem this video to be of sufficient quality to justify its presence, why?
P.S. I should be the one asking you: did you watch the video?
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Sounds like a good way of getting yourself faster on a Western engine/components export ban list.