Chinese UAV/UCAV development

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Blitzo

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This is perfect. I would've expected their VTOL drones to look more like helicopters than fixed wing drones. The caption says that it's used to command ASW. That would be an interesting usage. I don't know what the range/loiter time of something this small would be. A persistent issue for shipborne ASW is just having to cover such a large open sea area. Having a whole lot of VTOL drones that can help with ASW might be something that can help with that. Also given the size of this thing, you could potentially carry 1 Z-20F along with numerous VTOL drones on a 055.

Of course, something this size could potentially have a lot of other applications also.

They do also have helicopter drones, the most significant and capable naval VTOL drone being the one we've seen mockups of on 075.

These small VTOL drones are okay for more distributed shorter range EO surveillance at smaller endurances and only carrying a small sensor.

A larger MQ-8C sized drone can stay in the air for upwards of 12 hours while carrying a capable radar and EO payload as well.



I have a feeling these drones on the carrier's deck are more for validating certain drone command/coordination methods, rather than being a proper drone type intended for large scale procurement.

I suppose those smaller VTOL drones could be useful for small deck surface combatants like 056 to provide an organic aerial recce system. But for larger ships, it would be a very basic and underwhelming capability.
 

antiterror13

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As I understand, every Windows update that is to be released to Windows released/sold/installed within China must be source-code checked by Chinese agency and compiled inside China under the supervision of the Chinese agency. So there is no security risk of using Windows through official channel. There is a JV (CMIT) established by Microsoft and CETGC for providing Chinese government with Windows.

Why Microsoft wants to do that, is the market for Chinese govt is huge ?
 

gelgoog

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Why Microsoft wants to do that, is the market for Chinese govt is huge ?
Microsoft get money in licenses in exchange for basically doing nothing. CTEC are the ones doing the actual work.
Same deal they used to do in Japan with ASCII Corporation. Also one reason why Japanese software and PCs never went anywhere.
Operating systems create massive network effects which then you can leverage into selling even more software. Like MS did with Office.
At one point Lotus and Wordperfect were major companies. Excel and Word basically killed both. Lotus 123 basically died because Microsoft rewrote Excel for Windows 95 before anyone else had access to the documentation of the Win32 APIs they made for it. They probably had a year advantage to anyone else in writing software for Windows 95. When Windows 95 came out, Office 95 also came out for it the same day. People bought both. Once you had a software package you wouldn't easily change. Not after you spent a year or two creating documents in Office, which then Lotus 1 2 3 or Wordperfect couldn't open. Then once the competition starts to catch up you launch Office 97 and everything repeats again.

iOS and Windows and Android are cancers in order from worst to less bad.
 
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antiterror13

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Microsoft get money in licenses in exchange for basically doing nothing. CTEC are the ones doing the actual work.
Same deal they used to do in Japan with ASCII Corporation. Also one reason why Japanese software and PCs never went anywhere.
Operating systems create massive network effects which then you can leverage into selling even more software. Like MS did with Office.
At one point Lotus and Wordperfect were major companies. Excel and Word basically killed both. Lotus 123 basically died because Microsoft rewrote Excel for Windows 95 before anyone else had access to the documentation of the Win32 APIs they made for it. They probably had a year advantage to anyone else in writing software for Windows 95. When Windows 95 came out, Office 95 also came out for it the same day. People bought both. Once you had a software package you wouldn't easily change. Not after you spent a year or two creating documents in Office, which then Lotus 1 2 3 or Wordperfect couldn't open. Then once the competition starts to catch up you launch Office 97 and everything repeats again.

iOS and Windows and Android are cancers in order from worst to less bad.

Well, what you said all are true. But by providing the whole code to the Chinese Govt, it means that CTEC can learn much of Windows code.

What other countries do the same as the Chinese? perhaps not many countries have the resources, expertise and technology as China
 

gelgoog

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Blech. There is nothing to learn from Windows code. If you know anything about copyright law, the mere fact of having read someone else's code mean you risk being sued for infringement if you write a competing product afterwards. You are basically tainted.
 

Coalescence

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Blech. There is nothing to learn from Windows code. If you know anything about copyright law, the mere fact of having read someone else's code mean you risk being sued for infringement if you write a competing product afterwards. You are basically tainted.
Does that mean I can get sued from copying borrowing code from Stack Overflow and other programming blogs?
 

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So, it time to enter new era of sea warfare? What name for it? Loyal sailman? Source don't mention it armament! With 300 tons but don't need carry sailman i expect a lot of empty space and weight to carry armament instead.
UCAV over the sea can find targets way easier than over land... Identifying ennemy ship is easier than differentiate MBT hiding in the wood. ECM and air defence will need to be good to deter from terminal guidance designator. A couple of tealth ship layering stealth UAV can become true force multiplier.
 
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