Chinese Trainer Aircraft (JL-8, JL-9, JL-10 (L-15), etc.)


tphuang

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Re: JL-15 and other trainers

few more pics





more pictures of this. There have been so many false reports of L-15 lifting off. At least this one looks real.
 

KYli

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Re: JL-15 and other trainers

Great pictures.

And look real to me, also all the rumors were saying the JL15 will fly this month.
 

MIGleader

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Re: JL-9 entering service

tphuang said:
There is a serous logjam in China's trainer industry. Seriously, I can't imagine how China can be purchasing from 3 different trainer programs. JL-9 will be in a huge problem once JL-15 becomes available. Plaaf might get 30 JL-9s, but that would be it. Export will also be a huge problem, since K-8 has already taken over all of China's traditional markets and JL-15 will be more attractive.
I was thinking that the PLAAf might choose to replace all of it's existing k-8s and jj-7's with jl-9's. Some of the more elite units might get the jl-15. As the next decade rolls in, more jl-9s would get replaced by jl-15s.

To sum things up, the jl-9 is mostly going to be a stopgap aircraft until the jl-15 can be produced in sufficient numbers. Maybe some jl-9s can be sold to Pakistan to train FC-1 pilots. Since it has passed appraisel tests, we might see a few jl-9s enter service as early as later this year.

BTW, does the jl-15 have a radar?
 

Vlad Plasmius

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Re: JL-15 and other trainers

I think JL-8 is a basic trainer while Jl-9 and Jl-15 are advanced trainers. It likely means the training would follow:

JL-8 then JL-15/JL-9 and then a trainer depending on what squadron they're entering such as Su-27UBK for a Flanker squadron, J-10B for a J-10 squadron etc.

I think the idea of JL-15 being used for more advanced aircraft is right. Older flankers, the J-7, J-8, and FC-1 will probably have pilots trained with JL-9.
 

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Re: JL-15 and other trainers

well, the production rate for JL-9 was said to only be about 10 next year, so JL-15 has plenty of space to make up on and it has also been tauted as a possible attacker on a future carrier. I can't imagine it not having a PD radar.

Anyhow, it looks like this is official now, since even xinhua is posting it.
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我国自主研发新型高级教练机L-15首飞成功

新华网南昌3月13日电(刘济美)我国自主研发的L15“猎鹰”新型高级教练机,13日在中航第二集团公司属下的江西洪都航空工业集团公司首飞成功。

据洪都集团公司董事长田民介绍,L15“猎鹰”高级教练机是一种融合了多项最新航空技术的新一代超音速喷气式教练机,采用双发双座,具有先进的气动布局、高度综合的航空电子系统、国内先进的电传控制系统和高密度的结构布局,具有第三代战斗机的大迎角机动飞行能力和高敏捷性,可用于飞行学员的基础改装训练或作为“伴随”教练机进行战术训练,有多项外挂能力。
L15“猎鹰”高级教练机的首飞成功,对于完善我国初、中、高级教练机的研制生产体系,满足第三代和新型飞机飞行员的训练需要,竞争国际教练机市场都具有重要的意义。在此之前,洪都集团公司自主研制的K8(雄鹰)基础教练机,已运用于国内的飞行训练并批量出口。(完)

首架L15高教机总装完成提前交付试飞站(组图)

继L15高教机在第十一届北京国际航空展览会上凸显风采之后,洪都航空工业集团公司L15高教机总装现场再传捷报。

9月29日
下午4时整,洪都集团公司自行研制的L15高教机总装提前一天顺利交付试飞站。L15高教机总装交付标志着该机又迈上了一个新台阶,更重要的是年内实现首飞可以成为现实。
 

Andrew

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L-15: stealthy design features?

I may be totally wrong with my observation but the front section of the fuselage (the way the "nose" is shaped, in particular) reminds me a little of the F-22. Could this be an attempt at trying to bring some stealthy aspects into the design and use the experience gained for later fighter projects? :confused:

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L-15
 

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Re: JL-9 entering service

MIGleader said:
I was thinking that the PLAAf might choose to replace all of it's existing k-8s and jj-7's with jl-9's. Some of the more elite units might get the jl-15. As the next decade rolls in, more jl-9s would get replaced by jl-15s.

To sum things up, the jl-9 is mostly going to be a stopgap aircraft until the jl-15 can be produced in sufficient numbers. Maybe some jl-9s can be sold to Pakistan to train FC-1 pilots. Since it has passed appraisel tests, we might see a few jl-9s enter service as early as later this year.

BTW, does the jl-15 have a radar?
Nobody makes just a trainer with probably zero-zero ejection seats and able to carry drop tanks
The thing is also two engined, I wouldn't be surprised if it eneded up on the Varyag (if it ever becomes a carrier, I'm still sticking to casino)
 

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Re: JL-15 and other trainers

Video of the L-15's first flight in Mandarin (Windows media player required) :

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Cheers, Deino
 

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