Chinese submarines thread


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Pointblank

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Figure out why there are Y-8s (High New) are carrying the H-6H's surface search radars with a Light Bulb datalink on the back on the tail. The PLAN had long figured out they needed such a datalink infrastructure in the first place, to support the YJ-83s launched from 022s to upgraded old ships that don't have OTH targeting radars.
Assuming they don't get shot down by the CAP...
 

Raptoreyes

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Assuming they don't get shot down by the CAP...
Their is also the little matter of having enough VLT conventional subs in one area to overload a carrier battle groups defenses. I can see the Chinese SSK's overloading carrier defenses if they had support from land based missiles otherwise pointed at Taiwan but overloading a CBG out away from land based missiles with sub lanched missiles alone is a long shot.

Keeping the aircraft guidance up long enough as the last poster said is unlikely with a decently handled CAP.
 

crobato

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Assuming they don't get shot down by the CAP...
Assuming the CAP isn't busy fighting off another CAP...

But then again, AshMs can also be set on a search pattern mode. Given the size of a ship, the size of the seeker array, the potential acquisition range is only limited by the radar horizon. A seeker envelope of a radius of 40 to 50km is quite possible.

The acoustic signature of a ship can be picked up far away by a submarine, and these rough coordinates can be fed to que the AshM before launch to head to the general area.
 

maozedong

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I don't think chinese SSk away from land based missiles with sub lanched missiles alone is a long shot.C-602,C-803 range 200km,3M54E club range 300km.
the SSKs just need sea and air support,disrupted the CBG anti-sub capability. as they like wolves, they can any time enter the aircraft carrier 200 km-300km area.
But I want to know the missiles can perforated rigid hull of carrier?-- club and YJ system.
 
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tphuang

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Stay away from politics in this thread. Any further discussion on political stuff will be deleted.
 

Thery

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Although I believe that the recent PLAN development is mainly because Taiwan issue, but I do not think this going be the future plan. China sure already realized the needs for a blue water navy to protect her oversea interest to sustain her economic growth. Therefore, I believe PLAN sub program should slowly focus toward SSN instead SSK. They may continue produce SSK but I believe the size of SSK will shrink to increase their effectiveness under littoral water.

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PrOeLiTeZ

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??? Why is politics involved in a submarine thread??? Any news or articles that gives hint about 093 and 094 nuclear reactor powerplant?
 

Thery

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??? Why is politics involved in a submarine thread??? Any news or articles that gives hint about 093 and 094 nuclear reactor powerplant?
From what I read 093 and 094 are likely using Pressurized water reactor (PWR). Although some people do clam that they are using High Temperature Gas-cooled Reactor (HTGR), however already have people pointing out HTGR require way more space compare to PWR which is limited to SSN and SSBN. Moreover Russia has matured PWR technology, if 093 and 094 really receive help from Russia, then PWR is more possible.
 

maozedong

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093/94 British Jane's Defense Weekly in 1997, 1998, a succession of reports. It is Russia and China can learn from CIII-class SSN PW2G closed loop pressure-PWR technology products. At the same time basis for Jane's Defense Weekly reported that at that time, China also sent to Russia in batches of about 200 trainees.
PWS PWR type of muffler shielding ability. At present, China's nuclear power technologies that have already mastered, but now the 093/094 PWR used in accordance with the British Jane's Defense Weekly reports in the use of both the Russian part of the nuclear power technology. China's nuclear-powered submarines are accustomed to regarding themselves as the "final support" then for China's military might alone is very emotional can not be fully accepted.
PWS PWR type of muffler shielding ability. At present, China's nuclear power technologies that have already mastered, but now the 093/094 PWR used in accordance with the British Jane's Defense Weekly reports in the use of both the Russian part of the nuclear power technology. China's nuclear-powered submarines are accustomed to regarding themselves as the "final support" then for China's military might alone is very emotional can not be fully accepted.
093,094 is not too satisfied with the performance of the Chinese military requirements. For example, 093 front missile launch muzzles only one of the top vertical launch muzzle, HN-NX used to launch missiles. Transmit missile internal structure of a similar SLV-runner. Each combat posture can be fired only once.
rumoured China research 095 and 096
 
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