Chinese shipbuilding industry

henrik said:

Components like propulsion system, automation and control systems are the most important parts. What is the % of local parts in terms of $ value?

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Europeans have 100 years experience in this industry. CSSC Use proven supply chain to get into business. It speeds up the long certification process required for commercial aircraft & cruise ships.

Customers would not want to take on the risk of new suppliers for critical systems like Aircraft's engine or navigation system or cruise ship's propulsion system..

control system , propulsion have domestic replacement. so not a big issue..

this is first cruiser ship build in Asia. so CSSC didn't want to take any risk. second ship has approved and steel cutting started too. localization will increase further .. as i said above, CSSC called for local supply chain and integration ..

henrik said:

What is the % of local parts in terms of $ value?

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CSSC didn't reveal much details .. i will definitely post on forum if get any information ..

China has come to its present stage by being prudent, rational, patient, and methodical.
you don't take on such a mammoth first-time-ever project by going all-indigenous in the entire design, supply chain, and construction.
learn to walk one step at a time, eat your rice mouthful by mouthful, and don't bite off more than you could chew.
to lament and critique China for only using 60% indigenous products is simply Hubris and plain stupidity. After all, China is not like In..a
which talks and boasts constantly but only hot air comes out.

what is up with all these questions about localization on cruise ship? It's a cruise ship. If China get sanctioned and can't build it for a while, that's not a big deal. Until then, they made great progress in building it and they will localize parts over time.

A for a combined diesel-electric and diesel-mechanical (CODED) for icebreakers, filed by the 708th Institute.

Propulsion is provided by a centerline propeller and a pair of flank azipods, with the centerline propeller directly connected to diesel engines and the azipods driven by diesel generators. This arrangement provides for excellent low-speed maneuverability.

looks like BYD has started supplying shaft generators on marine battery box module for its first 9200 car PCTC, maybe this is a new sector it is getting into

Xuelong-2 polar research vessel and icebreaker visits Hong Kong.

China's large shipbuilders are booked to 2028, smaller ones to 2027.

WSJ video on China shipbuilding featuring Tom Shughart:

There is nothing useful that can be learnt from this video. Just the usual talking points...

I like how clueless those idiots are
I just came back from a tour of shipyards in China and South Korea, and yes I was in Changxing island, but no I won't post photos.
What goes on underneath those sheds lol, a hell of alot busier than what the satellite is capturing haha.

All I can say is that this industry is in the cusp of a digital revolution, both in terms of planning and execution to data management. The private yards are leading this as always, and they are executing it unbelievably well and achieving some fking awesome productivity that will go in a long way to offset the rising labor cost in years to come. Of course the west has access to the same tech, but its all isolated sectors run by separate companies trying to rape the customers. In China, since they operate in a vertical package, they go all in and integrate the lot into 1 system, and continually adapt and evolve it iteratively to suit their operations. I was blown away by some of them this time. And it aint some powerpoint show, rather active demonstration walking the yards and randomly picking on steps to verify the bullshit.

The State own behemoths are still motoring along with brute force, but some will soon catch on with this digital revolution, bureaucracy takes time to change. They are going to swat the rest of the world like flies when the state owned yards learn from the private ones.