Chinese shipbuilding industry


Maikeru

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Hm with this, can we then expect the 004 carrier to still be conventional powered?

And 005 and onwards nuclear then. Also the 004 being conventional probably wouldn't be that bad.

4 carriers in near waters being conventional (001 might just be training carrier mainly), with 2 having emals.
I don't see how this floating power plant is relevant to 004?
 

Michaelsinodef

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I don't see how this floating power plant is relevant to 004?
Nuclear power on a ship, although hm, guess not nuclear propulsion although even then, if 004 is nuclear it would have nuclear to generate power and use electricity to propel itself so still kinda relevant?
 

gelgoog

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This is a contract for a Chinese company to build a couple of barges for a Russian customer who will then install twin Russian Rosatom nuclear reactors in them. The barges will produce energy to power remote mines in Siberia. I assume these are RITM-200 reactors given the numbers they are talking about. Each reactor generates 55 MWe power. China has a similar project with the Chinese ACP100S reactor which has over twice the power.

If you want to get an idea of what these ships are about just look at the older Akademik Lomonosov.
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While China may have claimed its place as number one shipbuilding nation, it's still far behind South Korea in LNG shipbuilding. Not only do that, in cruise ships, VLCCs and other highest value shipbuilding, South Korea is still ahead. South Korea gained 62 LNG carrier orders and China only 5 this year.

Still, 5 LNG carriers is a base to work on to expand higher value added shipbuilding.

Of course military shipbuilding such as aircraft carriers and LHDs China is far ahead.
 

Andy1974

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@Tam Do you think there will come a time when there are too many container ships being built and that new orders will be reduced dramatically?

I think this is quite likely because the surge in orders is related to the price premiums being charged on containers now, so if this problem can be managed and the price comes down then new orders are not needed.

This could suddenly clear a lot of dock space in Chinas shipyards, which would be a good resource for the PLA.

Of course, China is more likely to just build something else civilian related.
 

Tam

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@Tam Do you think there will come a time when there are too many container ships being built and that new orders will be reduced dramatically?

I think this is quite likely because the surge in orders is related to the price premiums being charged on containers now, so if this problem can be managed and the price comes down then new orders are not needed.

This could suddenly clear a lot of dock space in Chinas shipyards, which would be a good resource for the PLA.

Of course, China is more likely to just build something else civilian related.

Yes. The shipping industry is like the semiconductor fab industry.

They go through cycles of surges, surplus then shortages.

They overproduce, then cut back, results in shortages, then overproduce again.

Like the semiconductor industry, they are currently in the shortage cycle right now. But a few years before, they were in the surplus cycle.
The surge however, might be sustained because we also have a disruption phase wherein the shipping industry is trying to get green, so fuel (LNG) ships are replacing classic carbon fuel powered ships.
 

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