Chinese semiconductor thread II

tphuang

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Latest on Nexperia by Dutch NL times. They realised they focked up royally and are furiously back pedalling. EU & US auto manufacturers have only a few weeks of Nexperia auto chip stocks left, nice.

China's export ban on Nexperia chips based on incorrect assumptions, Dutch Min. says
The Chinese government acted based on incorrect assumptions when it imposed export restrictions on chip manufacturer Nexperia in response to the Dutch government intervening in the company’s operations, caretaker Minister Vincent Karremans (Economic Affairs) said before the weekly Cabinet meeting. The Chinese are “mixing up a few things,” he said.

Karremans recently invoked a rarely used law to prevent the technological knowledge and intellectual property of Nijmegen-based Nexperia from leaking to China. The Enterprise Chamber of the Amsterdam Court of Appeal independently temporarily sidelined Nexperia’s Chinese owner. China subsequently halted the export of products from the Chinese Nexperia factory until further notice.


According to Karremans, Beijing wrongly assumes that the Netherlands acted under American pressure. The United States has long had its sights set on Nexperia's Chinese parent company. American tech companies are no longer permitted to simply supply components or software to it.

"Well, I haven't spoken to a single American about it since I became Minister of Economic Affairs," said Karremans. "So none of that is true." He reiterated that the Cabinet decided to intervene in Nexperia "without any mandate or consultation" with other countries.


Karremans is in talks with the Chinese authorities to find a solution. He declined to comment on the content of those talks. He did say he was “optimistic about the outcome, given the significant global stakes.”

“This isn’t just important for the Netherlands or a company in Nijmegen. This is important for many players in the global economy,” Karremans said.


The European Automobile Manufacturers' Association (ACEA) previously warned that virtually all European car makers are affected by the Nexperia conflict. According to the organizations, current stocks of Nexperia chips will be exhausted in a few weeks. ACEA called the situation alarming and advocated for swift and pragmatic solutions from all countries involved.

Car production in the United States is also at risk of being affected by the conflict, the Alliance for Automotive Innovation (AAI) warned on Friday. The Washington-based industry association, which represents virtually all major global automakers such as General Motors, Ford, Volkswagen, and Toyota, also called for a swift resolution to the conflict.

Reporting by ANP

this is honestly even worse. I don't know why they think this is a better explanation.

as I explained in this thread

If the Europeans are saying that anytime we think our domestic jobs are at stake because a Chinese company with plant in Europe is doing well, then we can just take over that plant. What's stopping them from doing this in other critical industries? If the Europeans want Chinese companies to invest more in Europe, they can offer incentives for more fabs to be built like they did with Intel and TSMC. But they haven't done that with mature chip production at all. They have no one to blame but themselves.
 

jli88

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this is honestly even worse. I don't know why they think this is a better explanation.

as I explained in this thread

If the Europeans are saying that anytime we think our domestic jobs are at stake because a Chinese company with plant in Europe is doing well, then we can just take over that plant. What's stopping them from doing this in other critical industries? If the Europeans want Chinese companies to invest more in Europe, they can offer incentives for more fabs to be built like they did with Intel and TSMC. But they haven't done that with mature chip production at all. They have no one to blame but themselves.

May I ask one question? I understand Wingtech has a subsidiary in Shanghai, but does nexperia directly own fabs in China as well? Or is it purely OSAT. Thank you in advance for answering
 

huemens

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May I ask one question? I understand Wingtech has a subsidiary in Shanghai, but does nexperia directly own fabs in China as well? Or is it purely OSAT. Thank you in advance for answering
Nexperia only owns 2 fabs (in Germany and UK). They bought a 3rd fab in UK (Newport Wafer Fab), which the UK government forced them to resell to an American company.
Then they have 3 packaging facilities in China, Malaysia and Philippines.
Ironically they don't have any fabs in Netherlands.
 

Michael90

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this is honestly even worse. I don't know why they think this is a better explanation.

as I explained in this thread

If the Europeans are saying that anytime we think our domestic jobs are at stake because a Chinese company with plant in Europe is doing well, then we can just take over that plant. What's stopping them from doing this in other critical industries? If the Europeans want Chinese companies to invest more in Europe, they can offer incentives for more fabs to be built like they did with Intel and TSMC. But they haven't done that with mature chip production at all. They have no one to blame but themselves.
I don’t know why you people are surprised. lol. Europe as a whole (barring a couple of countries) will always side with the US when push comes to shove and they obviously have apprehensions against an Asian power like China as well. So a move like this should not be such a surprise. Chinese companies should just be more careful while investing/setting up production facilities in Europe. So companies like Midea better make sure they have made use of Kuka as much as possible and completely localise production in China and gotten enough IP knowledge locally so that if Kuka ever gets seized they won’t lose as much.
 

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The outlook is bright! The SiCarrier staff introduces the DUV exposure machine. It can be produced next year and reaches 3nm, In the year after next, it will reach 2nm! This is what the SiCarrier DUV light scheme is like.

Not entirely sure how reliable that is, but oh well
 
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