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ansy1968

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@krautmeister bro from Tom's Hardware, validating your analyst.

China to Ramp Up High-Volume Production Using 14nm Node by End of 2022​

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Chinese chipmakers and chip designers at present are focused primarily on mature high-volume process technologies in a bid to support local makers of automobiles, consumer electronics, smartphones, and Internet-of-Things. Yet the country officials believe that next year local makers of semiconductors will begin to ramp up fabrication of chips using 14 nm and more advanced nodes.

China has been developing its semiconductor manufacturing prowess for over two decades now. So far, companies like Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corp. (SMIC) and Hua Hong Semiconductor have become rather significant chipmakers, but only when it comes to planar process technologies (e.g., 28 nm and thicker). SMIC, China's most advanced contract maker of semiconductors, gets a
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revenue share from producing chips using its 14 nm FinFET fabrication process, yet the situation is slowly improving (according to SMIC) as more local (and multi-national) chip designers adopt the node.

"[Planar] capacity will continue to be fully loaded till the end of the year, and new capacity will mainly form in the second half of this year," a statement by Dr. Haijun Zhao and Dr. Liang Mong Song, Co-CEOs of SMIC,
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. "In the first quarter FinFET revenue grew sequentially from a trough, and new tape-out projects are steadily engaging."

There are thousands of chip designers in China that are eager to adopt FinFET process technologies for their products developed for 5G and AI applications, so it makes a perfect sense for government officials to expect demand for SMIC's 14 nm technology to pick up in the coming quarters.



Wen Xiaojun, director of the Electronic Information Research Institute of China Electronics Information Industry Development Institute, said in an interview with
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) that domestic 14 nm chips would be produced in high volume by the end of next year despite all the difficulties and hurdles.

"I agree with the industry's prejudgment," said Xiaojun. "Although we are facing technical difficulties, we have seen hope."

The high-ranking official believes that 14 nm and 12 nm nodes will be crucial for numerous applications, including system-on-chips (SoCs) for entry-level 5G handsets and even PC processors. Hence, if China wants to continue relying on domestic SoCs going forward, it will have to use 14 nm and 12 nm technologies and then
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. Meanwhile, since development of more sophisticated nodes and equipping a high-volume fab for 10 nm and thinner technologies is close to impossible for SMIC, the company will have to rely on more advanced packaging methods at some point rather than on just more advanced transistors.

"The rapid development of the localization of 14 nm and even 28 nm chips means that we adopt a return strategy and use mature technology to meet general chip needs," said Xiaojun."We do not blindly pursue high-level manufacturing processes. We pay more attention to design and packaging optimization, and we trade time for semiconductor applications and the entire industry chain."


In a bid to make sure that SMIC's management and employees were interested in the company's long-term growth (rather than on making short-term gains) enabled by R&D and innovations, its board of directors recently introduced a new way to motivate them.

"SMIC's proposed restricted share incentive scheme applies not only to key management but also 23% of total workforce, to align their interests with the group's," Szeho Ng, an analyst with
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, wrote in a recent update concerning SMIC. "The vesting schedule spans four years in four tranches and the final vesting percentage is tied to sales/EBITDA targets (equal weight). SMIC considered its Entity List status when coming up with the targets, according to the company, which do not look aggressive (in normal circumstances). We consider the RSU scheme was tailored to avoid a lopsided focus on short-term sales growth/profitability and is more balanced towards fundamental research/strategy development for longer-term success."
 

ansy1968

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Is this significant especially it will used SMIC 14nm chips?

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Chinese team unveils open source RISC-V processor, hopes it will become 'Linux' of CPUs​

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June 24, 2021
Chinese team unveils open source RISC-V processor, hopes it will become 'Linux' of CPUs-CnTechPost

(Source: Zhihu)
Open source products like Linux exist in the operating system space, but not in the CPU space. In the view of one Chinese team, that's something that needs to be corrected.
At the first RISC-V China Summit in Shanghai on Wednesday, University of Chinese Academy of Sciences professor and Institute of Computing Technology (ICT) researcher Bao Yungang unveiled the open-source high-performance RISC-V processor core, Xiangshan.
Xiangshan is more widely known in China as Fragrant Hills Park in Beijing, a 188-hectare royal garden with mountain and forest features.

Bao said there is no open-source product like Linux in the CPU space, so his team believes the industry needs an open-source and high-performance RISC-V processor.
The hope is that it will both be widely used by industry and support academia in experimenting with innovative ideas, he said, adding that the goal is for it to survive for at least 30 years like Linux.
Xiangshan is developed in conjunction with industry companies through the China Open Instruction Ecology (RISC-V) Consortium, with support from ICT and Peng Cheng Laboratory.
The first production version, "Yanqihu," is scheduled to tape out this July, using Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company's (TSMC) 28nm process. Yanqihu, or Yanqi Lake, is also a tourist attraction located in Beijing.
Chinese team unveils open source RISC-V processor, hopes it will become 'Linux' of CPUs-CnTechPost

The team set up a code repository for Xiangshan on GitHub on June 11, 2020.

Over the past year, 25 students and teachers have worked on Xiangshan, committing 3,296 lines of code, totaling more than 50,000 lines and featuring more than 400 documents, according to Bao.
Chinese team unveils open source RISC-V processor, hopes it will become 'Linux' of CPUs-CnTechPost

Xiangshan is an open-source RISC-V processor core with an architecture codenamed after a lake, with the first version codenamed “Yanqihu”.
Chinese team unveils open source RISC-V processor, hopes it will become 'Linux' of CPUs-CnTechPost

The processor's RTL code was completed in April 2021 and is scheduled to be tape out in July based on TSMC's 28nm process, currently running at 1.3GHz.
Xiangshan is working on the next generation architecture "Nanhu" and aims to tape out by the end of this year.
It is based on SMIC's 14nm process, with a frequency of 2GHz, a SPECCPU score of 10 points per GHz, and support for other features including dual-channel DDR memory and PCIe, USB and HDMI.
 

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Is this significant especially it will used SMIC 14nm chips?

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Chinese team unveils open source RISC-V processor, hopes it will become 'Linux' of CPUs​

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June 24, 2021
Chinese team unveils open source RISC-V processor, hopes it will become 'Linux' of CPUs-CnTechPost'Linux' of CPUs-CnTechPost

(Source: Zhihu)
Open source products like Linux exist in the operating system space, but not in the CPU space. In the view of one Chinese team, that's something that needs to be corrected.
At the first RISC-V China Summit in Shanghai on Wednesday, University of Chinese Academy of Sciences professor and Institute of Computing Technology (ICT) researcher Bao Yungang unveiled the open-source high-performance RISC-V processor core, Xiangshan.
Xiangshan is more widely known in China as Fragrant Hills Park in Beijing, a 188-hectare royal garden with mountain and forest features.

Bao said there is no open-source product like Linux in the CPU space, so his team believes the industry needs an open-source and high-performance RISC-V processor.
The hope is that it will both be widely used by industry and support academia in experimenting with innovative ideas, he said, adding that the goal is for it to survive for at least 30 years like Linux.
Xiangshan is developed in conjunction with industry companies through the China Open Instruction Ecology (RISC-V) Consortium, with support from ICT and Peng Cheng Laboratory.
The first production version, "Yanqihu," is scheduled to tape out this July, using Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company's (TSMC) 28nm process. Yanqihu, or Yanqi Lake, is also a tourist attraction located in Beijing.
Chinese team unveils open source RISC-V processor, hopes it will become 'Linux' of CPUs-CnTechPost'Linux' of CPUs-CnTechPost

The team set up a code repository for Xiangshan on GitHub on June 11, 2020.

Over the past year, 25 students and teachers have worked on Xiangshan, committing 3,296 lines of code, totaling more than 50,000 lines and featuring more than 400 documents, according to Bao.
Chinese team unveils open source RISC-V processor, hopes it will become 'Linux' of CPUs-CnTechPost'Linux' of CPUs-CnTechPost

Xiangshan is an open-source RISC-V processor core with an architecture codenamed after a lake, with the first version codenamed “Yanqihu”.
Chinese team unveils open source RISC-V processor, hopes it will become 'Linux' of CPUs-CnTechPost'Linux' of CPUs-CnTechPost

The processor's RTL code was completed in April 2021 and is scheduled to be tape out in July based on TSMC's 28nm process, currently running at 1.3GHz.
Xiangshan is working on the next generation architecture "Nanhu" and aims to tape out by the end of this year.
It is based on SMIC's 14nm process, with a frequency of 2GHz, a SPECCPU score of 10 points per GHz, and support for other features including dual-channel DDR memory and PCIe, USB and HDMI.
In the grand scheme things this is not that impactful at the moment, given the lackluster performance compared to matured and private products. But in the big picture and the long term it will be the training wheels for China's next generation of semi conductor designers.

Opensource attracts talents like nothing else its like honey for software engineers. That is why Microsoft went really open source like 5~8 years ago, and completely reverted their image as a boring ass enterprise company to a more cooler company people actually want to work for because they do cool opensource projects.
 

caudaceus

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In the grand scheme things this is not that impactful at the moment, given the lackluster performance compared to matured and private products. But in the big picture and the long term it will be the training wheels for China's next generation of semi conductor designers.

Opensource attracts talents like nothing else its like honey for software engineers. That is why Microsoft went really open source like 5~8 years ago, and completely reverted their image as a boring ass enterprise company to a more cooler company people actually want to work for because they do cool opensource projects.
Just as we can build your Linux distribution at home, I'm waiting the day we can fab our chips at home lol.

Anyway the intention likely is to help other chip companies that open source project might serve as the foundation of various derivation, kind like Suse, redhat, Ubuntu derived from Linux kernel. Ultimately there will be lot of fabs that are experienced in building chips derived from this project, and democratize chips manufacturing.
 

BlackWindMnt

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Just as we can build your Linux distribution at home, I'm waiting the day we can fab our chips at home lol.

Anyway the intention likely is to help other chip companies that open source project might serve as the foundation of various derivation, kind like Suse, redhat, Ubuntu derived from Linux kernel. Ultimately there will be lot of fabs that are experienced in building chips derived from this project, and democratize chips manufacturing.
And China has a lot of good looking Linux distribution. I'm really interested in seeing what huawei will do with their Linux desktop distribution and their harmony eco system.
 

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But the US position, as an economy with only one-fourth the population, equally now depends on the Chinese market, and on downstream Chinese firms supplying applications to the world. While precautions against natural disasters and pandemics can be taken – up to a point – the central unstated message of this 100-day Review is that the greatest risk to the supply chain, in each of the four areas, is disruption of normal trade relations with China. In short, as an objective economic matter, we learn here, the United States has an overwhelming interest in peace.
 

krautmeister

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Is this significant especially it will used SMIC 14nm chips?

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Chinese team unveils open source RISC-V processor, hopes it will become 'Linux' of CPUs​

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June 24, 2021
Chinese team unveils open source RISC-V processor, hopes it will become 'Linux' of CPUs-CnTechPost'Linux' of CPUs-CnTechPost

(Source: Zhihu)
Open source products like Linux exist in the operating system space, but not in the CPU space. In the view of one Chinese team, that's something that needs to be corrected.
At the first RISC-V China Summit in Shanghai on Wednesday, University of Chinese Academy of Sciences professor and Institute of Computing Technology (ICT) researcher Bao Yungang unveiled the open-source high-performance RISC-V processor core, Xiangshan.
Xiangshan is more widely known in China as Fragrant Hills Park in Beijing, a 188-hectare royal garden with mountain and forest features.

Bao said there is no open-source product like Linux in the CPU space, so his team believes the industry needs an open-source and high-performance RISC-V processor.
The hope is that it will both be widely used by industry and support academia in experimenting with innovative ideas, he said, adding that the goal is for it to survive for at least 30 years like Linux.
Xiangshan is developed in conjunction with industry companies through the China Open Instruction Ecology (RISC-V) Consortium, with support from ICT and Peng Cheng Laboratory.
The first production version, "Yanqihu," is scheduled to tape out this July, using Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company's (TSMC) 28nm process. Yanqihu, or Yanqi Lake, is also a tourist attraction located in Beijing.
Chinese team unveils open source RISC-V processor, hopes it will become 'Linux' of CPUs-CnTechPost'Linux' of CPUs-CnTechPost

The team set up a code repository for Xiangshan on GitHub on June 11, 2020.

Over the past year, 25 students and teachers have worked on Xiangshan, committing 3,296 lines of code, totaling more than 50,000 lines and featuring more than 400 documents, according to Bao.
Chinese team unveils open source RISC-V processor, hopes it will become 'Linux' of CPUs-CnTechPost'Linux' of CPUs-CnTechPost

Xiangshan is an open-source RISC-V processor core with an architecture codenamed after a lake, with the first version codenamed “Yanqihu”.
Chinese team unveils open source RISC-V processor, hopes it will become 'Linux' of CPUs-CnTechPost'Linux' of CPUs-CnTechPost

The processor's RTL code was completed in April 2021 and is scheduled to be tape out in July based on TSMC's 28nm process, currently running at 1.3GHz.
Xiangshan is working on the next generation architecture "Nanhu" and aims to tape out by the end of this year.
It is based on SMIC's 14nm process, with a frequency of 2GHz, a SPECCPU score of 10 points per GHz, and support for other features including dual-channel DDR memory and PCIe, USB and HDMI.
They shouldn't be making this open source. The RISC-V standard itself is open source and was meant from the beginning to be the foundation upon which simple industrial ICs to full blown CPUs could be designed. I think this open source RISC-V chip should try to become China's ARM. They are planning on having the performance match the ARM A76 in the next version. If this were running with Harmony OS, this would be the killer combination that would allow full independence for the entire software stack while freeing China from hardware sanctions. The China market by itself would ensure success. Imo, it would be a better idea to use the ARM licensing model but have the licensing costs totally free for the next 7-10 years to entice licensees so this could succeed outside China.
 
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