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voyager1

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Frankly, with DARPA could take a fraction of the subsidies for the 2/3nm fabs and just develop a domestic sub-7nm process that they could then contract/lease out to American fabs.
Its not that easy. They have to achieve competitive commercial level production lines for these Fabs. Its one thing doing "military" and another to do "commercial in an open market"
 

horse

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DOES ANY OF THE ABOVE SOUND SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR??

Sorry to say, but honestly I think you are paranoid.

Look at that RCEP region. That is the world's biggest trading area, that will double in the next 10-15 years, and has everything from advanced technology to natural resources to large consumer markets.

Have some confidence in the future. There is nothing the United States can offer the RCEP that they cannot do themselves, other than these useless sanctions.

That is why the CCP says the east is rising while the west is going down, and they right.

I did some internet search today, and did you know that Taiwan foreign investment outflows are 10x times more to China than to America, for decades!

Next few years, that probably will increase even more with the RCEP coming online, which Taiwan officially not a part of, but unofficially they probably are because Taiwan economy is dependent on China, and integrated with the mainland economy, it really could just function as a part of it nowadays.
 

antiterror13

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Don't expect too much from Morris. While he is the Chairman of TSMC he isn't the CEO anymore.
I think rumors of massive build of TSMC factories in Arizona with 3nm and everything is plain BS.
They will build a 5nm fab but don't expect more than that in the short term.

Arizona has major issues with water shortages, plus Samsung also had plans to expand their Austin Texas fab to twice the original size but they never had the customer demand to do it. Do you sincerely think TSMC will do such a major expansion with zero customer demand for it?

yeahh and without enough demand from China ? ....... good luck with that
 

Skywatcher

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Its not that easy. They have to achieve competitive commercial level production lines for these Fabs. Its one thing doing "military" and another to do "commercial in an open market"
A DARPA sponsored 3-5nm fab project won't be militarily oriented (it could be dual use) since most military electronics use much older processes.

Intel would have been able to get to 7nm (or 10nm in their parlance) a lot sooner if they'd have tried new architectures out instead of listening to the MBAs and trying to cut costs by increasing densities on the old ones.
 

ansy1968

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Can the expert explain the significant of this breakthrough, If my memory serves me right most of the IP is hold by SK and Micron, so this effectively change the equation regarding DRAM and NAND?

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Scientists at Beijing's Institute of Physics have made a nonvolatile memory that is 5000x faster than flash memory. It can also store multiple bits instead of just 0s and 1s.

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voyager1

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Can the expert explain the significant of this breakthrough, If my memory serves me right most of the IP is hold by SK and Micron, so this effectively change the equation regarding DRAM and NAND?

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Keypoint is this (from IEEE article):
A major question now is whether or not researchers can make such devices on commercial scales. “This is the Achilles heel of most of these devices,” Jariwala says. “When it comes to real applications, scalability and the ability to integrate these devices on top of silicon processors are really challenging issues.”
 
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