For 10nm they need DUV which is 193nm. That one is 365.
Intel can't even do 10nm with 193nm. So it will be amazing if China can get 10nm without EUV.
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For 10nm they need DUV which is 193nm. That one is 365.
Intel can't even do 10nm with 193nm. So it will be amazing if China can get 10nm without EUV.
SteelBird
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I have two questions for thinking:
1. how reliable is this machine compare to its western counterparts?
2. does the machine contain any foreign parts which is subject to US sanction?
based on your link : At the end of May this year, according to Dutch media reports, the Chinese chip giant “Yangtze Storage” shipped a $72 million lithography machine ordered from ASML to Wuhan, Hubei.
does anyone know if any ASML units actually was successfully delivered to China in the end? wasn't that one destroyed in a mysterious factory fire?
antiterror13
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Intel is "hopeless", has been sleeping on huge cash in the last 10 years, hardly any innovations due to complacency
Guys, what does this mean? (I'm no techy).
TSMC reportedly stops taking orders from Huawei after new U.S. export controls
Taiwanese Semiconductor Manufacturing Co., the world’s largest contract semiconductor maker, has stopped taking new orders from Huawei Technologies, one of its largest customers, according to the Nikkei Asian Review. The report said the decision was made to comply with new United States export controls, announced last Friday, that are meant to make it more difficult for Huawei to obtain chips produced using U.S. technology, including manufacturing equipment.
Orders taken before the ban or already in production will not be affected, if they can ship before September 14. Huawei, the world’s largest telecom equipment maker, is TSMC’s second-biggest customer after Apple. TSMC makes many of the advanced chips used by Huawei, including in its smartphones.
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TSMC reportedly stops taking orders from Huawei after new U.S. export controls
Taiwanese Semiconductor Manufacturing Co., the world’s largest contract semiconductor maker, has stopped taking new orders from Huawei Technologies, one of its largest customers, according to the Nikkei Asian Review. The report said the decision was made to comply with new United States export controls, announced last Friday, that are meant to make it more difficult for Huawei to obtain chips produced using U.S. technology, including manufacturing equipment.
Orders taken before the ban or already in production will not be affected, if they can ship before September 14. Huawei, the world’s largest telecom equipment maker, is TSMC’s second-biggest customer after Apple. TSMC makes many of the advanced chips used by Huawei, including in its smartphones.
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Skywatcher
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I think they're trying to base it off of transistor density.
Even if Intel's 5nm is only the same as the rest of the world's 5nm, that'll
Future orders depend on who gets licenses and waivers in the future.
superdog
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If I understand correctly, that was a plasmonic lithography machine which uses surface plasmon polariton to achieve super-resolution.
At the reported specs it was indeed a scientific breakthrough, but only for creating periodic patterns. It could be used to make high precision optical component with repeated nano structures, such as photonic crystals and diffraction gratings (which are installed in lasers and other optical devices). It CANNOT be used to make integrated circuits because IC patterns are not periodic. Many news reports that associated this to IC manufacturing were misinformed.
Is it useful for creating the optical components of an EUV lithography machine?
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