I highly doubt that China would back out of a contract or commitment to buy anything, unless the Russians made promises they can't keep or the price has gone up as per "bidnez as usual comrade".
Chinese purchase of Su-35
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I highly doubt that China would back out of a contract or commitment to buy anything, unless the Russians made promises they can't keep or the price has gone up as per "bidnez as usual comrade".
This is the kind of statement that rubs many folks the wrong way on these comparo's,,, its fine to say the Rafale has better avionics??? its fine to say the Rafale has a faster pitch rate, rate of climb at gross weight, etc. etc. but they are two different animals
So no doubt the Rafale likely has tighter tolerances or a better finish???? but the SU-35 is a very capable aircraft, it will haul a load, it has very long legs, it has OVT and is quite maneuverable for such a large fighter???
I would clarify what you heard or read, and ask what others might think???
That is the key, simply put, it is orange and apple.
I suppose it is RD-120. According to wikileak, 3 were supposed sold in 1991 around the collapse of USSR. If the LOX-Kerosene engines of LM-5 and LM-7 had any foreign input, it must be RD-120.
Although I am against the Su35, I'd rather believe China did not sign a deal than believing China is going to renegade from a contract. Simply because compared with credibility, money is nothing.
Remember Korean war? Soviet provided weapons to PVA as material contribution, but then at the breakup of Sino-Soviet relation asked China to pay. China paid with everything she had. Remember the story of Soviets measuring the size of apples China paid? Leave the story being true or not, or Soviets conduct aside, China paid with honor and dignity. It is not weak, it is strong. As Chinese saying goes "一言九鼎，一诺千金", you may know it. For the non-Chinese speaker it can be translated as "one word worth thousands gold, as heavy as mountains". Because, if one keep ones words as such, nobody is going to assume he bluffs. It is a image "It will be so because I say so." that is a powerful image.
broadsword
Brigadier
So the contract is a work in progress.
b787
Captain
how are these oil & gas deals concessions to Russia? If I remember correctly, for that massive gas deal a couple of years ago, the price per thousand cubic meter is lower than Gazprom's European price and the subsequent deals allowed Chinese large equity stakes in the projects.
SteelBird
Colonel
Sometimes I read news from unreliable sources, I never share them. However, today I 'll try to share some. Report from a Vietnamese news claimed that Russian Air Force has just received 4 Su-35S and sent them to Syria. The deal was signed in 2015. I just wonder if these are 4 Su-35 that were claimed to be delivered to China by the end of this year? The deal does exist but the buyer is not PLAAF, it's Russian Air Force!
