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I mean the price for this is pretty expensive.

How many people are paying $3000 for PCs?

But the bigger question is the ecosystem. How quickly can they build all the apps needed. Certainly, they can replace MacBook in China if they have all the domestic software makers get apps ready.
 
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tphuang said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1924626331142111584

I mean the price for this is pretty expensive.

How many people are paying $3000 for PCs?

But the bigger question is the ecosystem. How quickly can they build all the apps needed. Certainly, they can replace MacBook in China if they have all the domestic software makers get apps ready.
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They need their equivalent of MacBook Air or Mac mini before these premium ones. It's too expensive and ultimately they are a new player in PC and they need a value proposition to bring people in when they don't have a big pool of useful software. I mean I want to support them but PCs are in the end different from smart phones, one would expect them to work with all sorts of niche software, not just looking good with fluid animations.......
 
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hifisnow said:
They need their equivalent of MacBook Air or Mac mini before these premium ones. It's too expensive and ultimately they are a new player in PC and they need a value proposition to bring people in when they don't have a big pool of useful software. I mean I want to support them but PCs are in the end different from smart phones, one would expect them to work with all sorts of niche software, not just looking good with fluid animations.......
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They do have the "pro" models that start at 7999 yuans, comparable to the MacBook Air I think:
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You pay 23999 yuans or more as the premium for the 18 inch fold OLED display. Expensive but reasonable:
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I agree that they will need a model or two for the desktop in the future.
 
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hifisnow said:
They need their equivalent of MacBook Air or Mac mini before these premium ones. It's too expensive and ultimately they are a new player in PC and they need a value proposition to bring people in when they don't have a big pool of useful software. I mean I want to support them but PCs are in the end different from smart phones, one would expect them to work with all sorts of niche software, not just looking good with fluid animations.......
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They really need to focus on mass sales and software ecosystem for students.

It would probably also help if there was an open harmony version for the backend services that can be easily run in a VM or the cloud for current set of developers.
 
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they need to replace the whole adobe suite imo for it to gain serious popularity especially among professionals. if they can make capcut editing software, then making a better adobe should be ok
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CapCut itself is already available, so they don't have to make an alternative. Then there's WuKong Image, a Photoshop alternative. It supports Photoshop file formats.
 
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The Huawei PCs are a bit pricey yeah, but I think best outcome out of all this is if the cheaper PC makers adopt HarmonyOS so that even the cheapest $100 laptops have it preinstalled. That would be the nuts to see that happen.
 
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BlackWindMnt said:
They really need to focus on mass sales and software ecosystem for students.
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They are creating courses for college students to learn this OS:
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"方兴东：生态的发展离不开广大开发者的参与和支持。目前，安卓和苹果各自拥有数百万级的应用和千万级的开发者，形成了庞大的开发生态。鸿蒙作为一个全新的系统，在编程语言和开发工具等方面都具有独特性，这意味着开发者需要一定的时间去学习和适应。

目前，真正深入了解鸿蒙的开发者还相对较少，无论是通过自学还是借助高校的教育资源，开发者的成长都需要一个启动过程。陈海波教授团队编写相关教材、培养人才梯队，这对于鸿蒙生态的建设至关重要。高校的教育体系在知识传播和人才培养方面发挥着不可替代的作用，可以让更多学生从学习阶段就开始接触鸿蒙，并在毕业后为鸿蒙生态贡献力量。

此外，社会上的培训资源虽然也在逐渐丰富，但与高校体系相比，其完整性和系统性仍有差距。因此，我们需要逐步动员和整合各种教育资源和制度力量，以支持鸿蒙生态的建设和发展。"

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It would probably also help if there was an open harmony version for the backend services that can be easily run in a VM or the cloud for current set of developers.
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There is already an Open Harmony:
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. Or you mean something more specific or built on top of it?
 
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There is already an Open Harmony:
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. Or you mean something more specific or built on top of it?
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Is Huawei planning on using open harmony in their own cloud services?

Like running open harmony containers on open harmony. Because I think its important to dog food(using the OS) your own products after a while especially something as important as an operating system.
 
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Is Huawei planning on using open harmony in their own cloud services?

Like running open harmony containers on open harmony. Because I think it's important to dog food(using the OS) your own products after a while especially something as important as an operating system.
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Huawei also has Linux based EulerOS (and openEuler as the open source version) which appears to be their OS of choice for backend services:
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I am not familiar with either but it seems that open Harmony can run in virtual environments according to the Google AI search results.
 
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