Chinese military exports to other countries

Schumacher

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Why not just buy a production line for the JF-17 from Pakistan?
The JF-17 is a much better option for Iran rather than have the Chinese help them make a re-worked F-5.
It is also very flexible in terms of possible armament and avionics - part of Pakistan's requirement as an option to fix Western and Chinese systems.
Spending more on Iran's F-5 design is a waste of money, and a sop to Iran's domestic technical pride.

Direct export of JF-17 is out of the question for now due to UN arms sanctions on Iran.
Providing some form of assistance to help Iran improve its indigenous arms industry is another matter.
 

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Why not just buy a production line for the JF-17 from Pakistan?

The JF-17 is a much better option for Iran rather than have the Chinese help them make a re-worked F-5.

It is also very flexible in terms of possible armament and avionics - part of Pakistan's requirement as an option to fix Western and Chinese systems.

Spending more on Iran's F-5 design is a waste of money, and a sop to Iran's domestic technical pride.

I presume that China gained her experience with the F-5 when a Taiwanese F-5 defected to China during the 80s?
 

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a little summary from Kanwa of the Chinese export to South East Asia in the recent year, probably not complete

to Malaysia, 16 FN-6 MANPAD
to Thailand, 2 OPVS, licensed production of WS-1B and C-802A
to Burma, some number of MBT-2000 and C-802A (they actually sold K-8 and CJ-6 there too, but Kanwa didn't mention obviously)
to Cambodia, P46C patrol boat + P200C patrol boat
to Indonesia, QW-1, QW-3 MANPAD, C-802 and possibly SY-400 (we also know C-705 from previously)
 

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Also, it says that China has exported MBT-2000 to Morocco (which we already know) and Burma.
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It says that China is talking with Morocco about AR-2, but it hasn't been signed yet. (which seems to contradict what we had before)

Hi tphuang,

any further details about both deals?(quantity,pricing,delivery..)
thanks in advance
 

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not sure about the Morocco

Here is a little information on C-705, since it's been exported.

It says that C-705 is 320 kg in total with a warhead of 130 kg. It says that the warhead uses new technology and have higher destruction power than that of C-802. The maximum range is 140 km and can sink or seriously damage a ship from 1500-3000 class with one hit.

Similar to C-802, it is cold launched and only turns on the fuel after being launched by the aircraft. It uses inertial guidance to reach target.
中国航天科工集团本次航展上展示的新型C705型空射反舰导弹武器系统,适合于机载、艇载以及陆基机动车辆平台等多平台装载,主要用于打击护卫舰以及中型海上目标。具有航路点规划能力;同时它还具有尺寸小、重量轻,射程远,威力大,命中精度高,抗干扰能力强等特点。并具有备航和规划能力,可换装电视或红外导引头,具备对地攻击能力。
  据介绍此次展出的C705型导弹主要是空射型导弹,该C705型导弹与新的C802A型导弹两者对比,C705型导弹更加轻便、小巧,更便于在小型舰艇、飞机、车辆等平台上搭载使用。因此它的使用成本也更为低廉。
  C705型反舰导弹战斗全重约为320KG,内置高效能战斗部质量约130KG。但是据介绍因为采用了新的装药技术所以它的打击效果要更优于C802导弹,杀伤能力也更加强大。C705型反舰导弹最大射程约为140千米。可以一次重创或击沉1500-3000吨级的中等以下舰船。
  C705型反舰导弹的制导系统采用了捷联式惯性导航系统。据现场专家介绍说,这种新型的捷联式惯性导航系统采用的是“数字化模型注入”的制导方式,它对比早期的“陀螺”或惯性导航模块形式的制导,无论是在精度上还是在制导能力上都有了显著提高,可以满足现代化战争中“精确打击”的需求。
  C705型反舰导弹系统的发射形式,采用了抛离式发射,即导弹由飞机抛离后在一定距离上开始自动点火,也称作冷发射。这是目前很多世界发达国家使用最为普遍的一种机载导弹发射技术。它的动力系统采用了与C802导弹类似的动力系统,但是没有使用火箭助飞器。(寒风)
 

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Another export item is CM802AKG AGM. This seems to just be the export version of KD-88. It says that the missile uses strapdown, inertial guidance with TV guidance seeker. It is digitally controlled, small sized, light and have long range with high accuracy and powerful warhead.

It can be used to attack command center, airport, radar station, logistics position, mobile missile locations. It can also be used for enemy ship target.

It can use infrared seeker, TV seeker or active radar guidance. It has a range of 220 km (which is more than 180 km of C-802A) and is cold launched from aircraft.
本届珠海航展上航天科工展示了CM802AKG新一代空对地导弹,该导弹可挂装目前国际上主流的固定翼飞机。导弹采用的捷联惯性导航、电视导引头,并实现数字化控制,具有体积小、重量轻、射程远、突防能力强、命中精度高、战斗部威力大,使用维护操作简便等特点。

  CM802AKG导弹用于攻击敌野战指挥中心、前线机场、雷达站、后勤补给阵地、机动式导弹、炮兵阵地以及各种移动战术目标,同时可以兼顾对敌海上舰船目标的攻击。

  根据在场专家介绍,CM802AKG导弹可以使用几种不同的导引头,如:红外导引头、电视导引头以及雷达导引头等。该导弹在末端制导也同样采用了全新的捷联式惯性导航技术,因此也属于联合制导型导弹。

  该导弹系统其他参数与C802A基本相同,不同的是它的最大射程有所增加,比C802A要更远一些。依据专家介绍,最大可以达到220千米。这枚展示的CM802AKG导弹主要使用得是机载发射模式,发射手法采用冷发射手段,更加安全可靠。

  同时在场专家还指出,目前本次航展中所展示的C802A,CM802AKG等导弹虽然外观依旧与老版本导弹没有很显著区别,但是其内部设置以及所采用的各种技术都是全新研制的,因此现在展示这些导弹对比早期同类型型号导弹,在性能上都有了十分明显的提高。

  此外专家还介绍说,CM802AGK导弹也可以使用类似C802A一样的尾部火箭助推系统。该导弹系统最大飞行速度与C802系列导弹一样同属于高亚音速导弹。不过整套CM802AGK导弹系统研发基础主要以在原C802基础上研制的,对于更换“CM”名称,专家解释说,这是由于新的导弹系统在使用用途上与以前的基础版本有很大区别,因此使用了新的名称来定名。(寒风)
 

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Here is a bunch of photos showing FL-9 truck based air defense system. This uses a light armored chassis with a track system that combines laser, TV and IR. It can also use a radar truck with 3D radar system.

It is shown in these pictures to be carrying QW-18L missile, but can use other missiles. It can be used to defend against targets from 1m to 6000-7000 m in altitude.
 

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MwRYum

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Here is a bunch of photos showing FL-9 truck based air defense system. This uses a light armored chassis with a track system that combines laser, TV and IR. It can also use a radar truck with 3D radar system.

It is shown in these pictures to be carrying QW-18L missile, but can use other missiles. It can be used to defend against targets from 1m to 6000-7000 m in altitude.

The vehicle itself was showcased in the 2008 airshow (I recognized it because I was there), but the launcher module is different design this time.
 

SteelBird

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Here is a bunch of photos showing FL-9 truck based air defense system. This uses a light armored chassis with a track system that combines laser, TV and IR. It can also use a radar truck with 3D radar system.

It is shown in these pictures to be carrying QW-18L missile, but can use other missiles. It can be used to defend against targets from 1m to 6000-7000 m in altitude.

If I'm not mistaken, the chassis is the ZFB-05A. Wonder why we don't have much discuss about this vehicle on the forum. I saw a youtube video about the vehicle that it has great performance and wide range of use. But the width is a little narrow to me. Given its height, it should be made wider.
 
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