Chinese Marines: How many can they land in a day?

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Jeff Head

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bd popeye said:
I think...

Lots of commercial vessels were used at Dunkirk and they were under fire and yet performed herocially.

Of course, they were evacuating, not assaulting.

My guess is that the PLAN will use a lot of commerical vessles in an attempt against Tawian, but not in the first waves. They will use there military sea lift and air assault for that.
 

BrotherofSnake

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lol, a portable CIWS is impractical. We armed M113 with 20mm cannons and they failed horribly. It could not hold enough ammunition and it could not work in night time operations.

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Jeff Head

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Yes they can...and they can land third and fourth echelon troops if the beaches are secured.

...and therein lies the key.

It will always all depend on what level and how effectively the landings are contested in the air, on land and sea.
 

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BrotherofSnake said:
lol, a portable CIWS is impractical. We armed M113 with 20mm cannons and they failed horribly. It could not hold enough ammunition and it could not work in night time operations.

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did you see the land based CIWS?? put that on a LST and you got a protable CIWS :)
 

Lavi

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The number of people PLAN can land is to much depending on the scenario to be given exact. If we take Taiwan as an example, the main problem is the number of defenders their weapons, will the invasion fleet be met by air attacks when our on the sea already, how many hostile naval vessels will be in the area?

For a trip to India the problem of resupply is added, the troops will have to eat and drink during the journey, and the ships will have to be refuelled. Add this to the problems stated above and you have the main problems PLAN would face.

For a first wave, actually assaulting the beaches, PLAN has a quite limited capability, because of its lack of ships able to protect and support the landings, not its lack of landing tonnage. In the waves following up, when some kind of a beachead has already been established, China would be able to land much more soldiers and equipment in each wave. Here civilan ships could also be used with success.

Making a surprise attack would mean that they were not (as much) hampered by the lack of fire support and protection, but the preparations for such a attack would probably not be possible to hide for the intelligence service of the intended target.
 

Igor

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In a taiwan invasion scenario, there would be no PRC ships in the strait until extensive ballistic missile salvos over taiwans airfields and eventual air dominance over taiwan was achieved. This isn't very difficult, China has large superiority in these areas.

Only after that would ships start crossing, and they could cross easily and in huge numbers, civilian vessels would be commandered to augment military vessels, all of which would be protected by PRC navy. Taiwanese navy and beach defences would be sitting ducks to PRC airforce and missile strikes. Within a week hundreds of thousands of troops could be landed in Taiwan.

As for india, any invasion would occur over land.
 

Lion

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Re: »Ø¸´: Chinese Marines: How many can they land in a day?

In a taiwan invasion scenario, there would be no PRC ships in the strait until extensive ballistic missile salvos over taiwans airfields and eventual air dominance over taiwan was achieved. This isn't very difficult, China has large superiority in these areas.

Only after that would ships start crossing, and they could cross easily and in huge numbers, civilian vessels would be commandered to augment military vessels, all of which would be protected by PRC navy. Taiwanese navy and beach defences would be sitting ducks to PRC airforce and missile strikes. Within a week hundreds of thousands of troops could be landed in Taiwan.

As for india, any invasion would occur over land.

WOW.. Six years ago thing, you still want to argue?
 
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