Chinese Marine Propulsion

Tomboy said:

It's not domestically developed, AFAIK it's just a licensed produced MAN design.

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Nope. Hengli signed only diesel fuel type Engine agreement with MAN. this dual fuel designation ''8G95'' MAN doesn't have.. all national state Media clearly stated first domestically developed.

please point out any official link from MAN solution regarding this specific 8G95 model.

sunnymaxi said:

Nope. Hengli signed only diesel fuel type Engine agreement with MAN. this dual fuel designation ''8G95'' MAN doesn't have.. all national state Media clearly stated first domestically developed.

please point out any official link from MAN solution regarding this specific 8G95 model.

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There are multiple references to 8G95ME methanol engines from Everllence (formerly known as MAN B&W), none of them mention they are Chinese designed.


Unless I'm mistaken CMD also license produces this model of engines which even has "MAN" in its designation (CMD-MAN-8G95ME) from the picture you can find in the link above.


Also, here is an official project guide from MAN B&W about the G95ME series of engines, the number in front AFAIK refers to the cylinder count. There is also a 12 cylinder version also license produced by CMD called the 12G95ME as an example.

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There are multiple references to 8G95ME methanol engines from Everllence (formerly known as MAN B&W), none of them mention they are Chinese designed.

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Unless I'm mistaken CMD also license produces this model of engines which even has "MAN" in its designation (CMD-MAN-8G95ME) from the picture you can find in the link above.

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Also, here is an official project guide from MAN B&W about the G95ME series of engines, the number in front AFAIK refers to the cylinder count. There is also a 12 cylinder version also license produced by CMD called the 12G95ME as an example.

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Is this the same type of engine you're referring to?

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Is this the same type of engine you're referring to?
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Yup, which you can clearly see the report says it's from MAN ES

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There are multiple references to 8G95ME methanol engines from Everllence (formerly known as MAN B&W), none of them mention they are Chinese designed.

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Unless I'm mistaken CMD also license produces this model of engines which even has "MAN" in its designation (CMD-MAN-8G95ME) from the picture you can find in the link above.

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Also, here is an official project guide from MAN B&W about the G95ME series of engines, the number in front AFAIK refers to the cylinder count. There is also a 12 cylinder version also license produced by CMD called the 12G95ME as an example.

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Hengli broke the certain protocol here and didn't mention MAN in their banner also explicitly written first domestically produced. they have doing this license since 2024 and never mentioned once first domestically produced until now. this is likely to related local manufacturing in Dalian production plant and using MAN design.

here is the banner of CMD produced 12 cylinder of this model under license.



i should have mentioned local manufacturing. that was my mistake and i m sorry for this.
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actually CSSC/WinGD , CMD also CMG alongside MAN and Wartsila have deeply integrated so some time create confusion. CSSC have two major Engine manufacturing plant. one is in Qingdao and other is in Shanghai. third one is in Dalian now rapidly expanding.

CSSC regularly reveal different engines under the banner of WinGD or by themselves.

last year revealed one of the most powerful dual fuel Engine with power output of 64,500KW. the engine features fully independent intellectual property by using industrial methanol as fuel. this is self-developed Engine by CSSC.

2 new engine designed by WinGD and produced by CSSC got delivered


9X92DF-M-1.0-LPSCR low speed methanol dual fuel engine (for 14000 TEU ships) and WinGD 6X62-1.1-HPSCR main engine (designed for 4350-5000 TEU container ships)

using deepseek's reading of this of larger engine

Methanol dual‑fuel, low‑speed two‑stroke (Otto‑cycle on methanol, Diesel on pilot fuel) Methanol (≥95% substitution rate) + MGO pilot fuel. 96cm bore and 9 cylinder, designed for 14000 TEU large container ship + LPSCR emission after treatment

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6X62‑1.1‑HPSCR is Conventional liquid‑fuel (HFO/MDO) low‑speed two‑stroke, with second‑fuel reserved adaptability and 62cm bore and 6 cylinders, 2900kW per cylinder -> 17400 kW total and HPSCR emission treatment.

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CGT-50: 55MW

Currently in the prototype design stage

bsdnf said:

CGT-50: 55MW

Currently in the prototype design stage
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I shall provide some more details.

The following power output values listed for the following gas turbine engines are likely based on ISO standards (with their respective current status/stage in brackets):
- CGT3 = 2.5MW (in serial production)
- CGT6 = 6.0MW (prototype production)
- CGT8 = 8.0 MW (prototype design)
- CGT15 = 15.0MW (prototype production)
- CGT25 = 25.0MW (in serial production)
- CGT28 = 32.0MW (to be announced)
- CGT30 = 33.0MW (in serial production)
- H-25 = 32.0/42.0MW (in serial production)
- CGT40 = 44.0MW (in serial production)
- CGT50 = 55.0MW (prototype design)

Note that key medium-to-high-powered marine gas turbine engine models for PLAN use (both current and prospective) in the list are bolded.

SOYO on Weibo has also noted the following:
- GT28 is purely for industrial use and is different (perhaps in terms of overall design and system architecture) from the GT30.
- Prototype design = Either a detailed, specialized design derived from a marine model for a civilian variant, or a completely new design. Without solid evidence, it is impossible to pick an absolutely correct answer between the two.

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We do know that CGT30(M) has most certainly passed major evaluations (especially on the 052D DDG-133 Baotou), and I think we may reasonably anticipate that newer 052D DDGs (whether of the current batch or in subsequent units) will be powered by CGT30(M) instead of CGT25(M).

However, I do wonder what ships the CGT40(M) is/will be meant for, given that the showcase also lists said gas turbine engine to be already in serial production?

Model of the CGT40 gas turbine engine exhibited at an expo in Shanghai today (with the product lists at top left). Photographed by SOYO on Weibo.

this is pretty cool. to already see in CGT-40 gas turbines. Also, CGT-25 has seen 100 deliveries is pretty high.