Chinese Economics Thread

[CMP]

I'm fine with Indian immigration as long it's pretty Indian girls of marital age willing to help fix China's demographic issues.

I'm opposed to immigration of foreign men that makes China's gender imbalance worse.

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So targeting an age range of 18 through 24, minimum height 170cm and BMI of no more than 20.

 

[didklmyself]

Regardless of what others may say, I firmly believe India will emerge as an exceptionally powerful nation by mid-century. I refuse to believe Indians are any less intelligent than Chinese or Caucasians. If governed effectively, India could surpass the United States to become the world's third or even second-strongest power. But that's another story altogether.
What I'm addressing is the current Chinese fear of illegal Indian immigrants and the deep-seated concern that the Chinese government might eventually open its doors to permanent immigration.

Forget about how India will turn out, that's not the topic that should be discussed in Chinese Economics Thread. It's crazy how everytime I check on this forum for updates the same 3-4 individuals keep vomiting the same non-sense about demographics, racial hierarchy....

Indians illegal immigrants wont be a problem in China's case. Unless you count maybe a few hundred illegals a catastrophe in the making. Indians cannot take part in the general Chinese economy because of language issues and as long as the door to west is open it will be preffered. This is nothing to be concerned about... I though hope to see my compatriots go in large numbers to study and see the nation firsthand. A lot of problems in India could be fixed if my people study the experiences of PRC diligently.

 

[manqiangrexue]

According to official statements, the K visa requires applicants to have graduated from a renowned domestic or international university or research institution with a bachelor's degree or higher in a STEM field, or to have engaged in relevant professional education or research work at such institutions. Each entry under the K visa permits a maximum stay of 180 days. It offers multiple entries over a period of up to five years without requiring sponsorship from a domestic employer or inviting organization. Holders may engage in activities related to education, science and technology, culture, entrepreneurship, and business.
Note that the Chinese government has yet to announce which specific universities or research institutions qualify, a point that has caused unease among Chinese citizens.

So what? If they don't give K-visas just for meeting the bare minimum requirements, but are requirement to meet the minimum requirements for consideration, why are people worried? This is at least the second time you missed this. Also, multiple 180 day stays is basically making it a point that they're guests that should expect to work for pay and leave. I don't see any problems.

If the millions of forced abortions resulting from the one-child policy are not considered culling, what should they be called?

That's called population control during a time where China needed a leaner and more educated workforce rather than a larger more agrarian one devoting more resources to bare survival needs. You clearly don't know what culling means. Culling means to select for undesirable traits and remove them from the population. Animal breeders cull by selectively removing smaller/weaker/odd individuals; reducing pregnancy is general population control. China's not doing population control on its own population while calling for mass immigration; China had to control its population when it was too poor to properly educate and provide for all of them and now, when it's richer, it is attempting to stimulate fertility in its native population while allowing exceptionally skilled foreign workers to work as guests in China for brief periods.

 

[didklmyself]

Hong Kong is much more open than the mainland and there isn't a significant Indian population there.

Language is the main deal - attaining education become harder, only private or "more western oriented" tier 1 colleges/unis are open and most of Indian migrants elsewhere engage in services, which again is closed in PRCs case. Not to mention, "educated/worked in China" label does not have much status in India(wrongly).

Gulf like situation is the most tenable. Indians workers come but there are severe restrictions, which I hope does not occur. Do not want to see my compatriots become a "slave class" in another nation.

 

[JayFalsum]

Culling means to select for undesirable traits and remove them from the population.

You mean undesirable traits like being born female? Hence the 30 million surplus men.

 

[manqiangrexue]

You mean undesirable traits like being born female? Hence the 30 million surplus men.

No I don't mean that becauase the CCP never ever required an abortion due to the fetus being female. The CCP specifically forbade gender reveal during pregnancy checkups to prevent this. This is the result of what individual families did while taking great pains to break the law. My mother was a doctor in China. Many poor people begged her to tell them to tell them if the ultrasound showed male or female. Some cried, some tried to give her gifts. She always refused because it is illegal and doctors caught breaking the rule face unimaginable consequences.

You don't even know who to blame for your anger.

 

[2handedswordsman]

Some cultures are shit, that’s why their countries are underdeveloped and why they are always looking to migrate.

Imperialism, wars, invasions have nothing to do huh? Do you think there's a gene of incompetence on them also?

 

[CMP]

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So targeting an age range of 18 through 24, minimum height 170cm and BMI of no more than 20.

To further expand on this, even going beyond Indians, there should be active programs to poach young single pretty girls of marital age from all over the world. Offer them permanent residency, free college and graduate school education + living cost stipend in China. The rest will naturally work itself out.

 

[wuguanhui]

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So targeting an age range of 18 through 24, minimum height 170cm and BMI of no more than 20.

Yup. But we need a cap on entries in case we get too many. China allegedly has a male surplus of 30 million. So no more than 30 million young unmarried women, of any nationality (I'm not racist).

To further expand on this, even going beyond Indians, there should be active programs to poach young single pretty girls of marital age from all over the world. Offer them permanent residency, free college and graduate school education + living cost stipend in China. The rest will naturally work itself out.

You're a genius!

 

[didklmyself]

The CCP specifically forbade gender reveal during pregnancy checkups to prevent this. This is the result of what individual families did while taking great pains to break the law. My mother was a doctor in China. Many poor people begged her to tell them to tell them if the ultrasound showed male or female. Some cried, some tried to give her gifts. She always refused because it is illegal and doctors caught breaking the rule face unimaginable consequences.

You don't even know who to blame for your anger.

The problem was introducing the policy in a mainly rural society with strong male preference. It was bound to cause a gender imbalance.

Sure parents who did engage in these atrocious acts are responsible but so is the leadership who devised the programme without assessing the material conditions of their own people.

They fell for stupid western neo-malthusian ideas regarding "too many orientals" and rushed into this, there is no defending OCP.