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Gatekeeper

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Looks like these fools started to entertain the idea of restricting iron ore sales to China
What will China do when they really restrict iron ore sales? when will China develop reliable alternative supply of iron ore? 62% of China iron ore came from australia
How long do you guys think iron ore mines in west africa will be fully operational?

What a piece of journalist trash. I just loved the way it spin the worsening relationship squarely at China's door.

"The relationship got worse 3 years ago because of Turnbull government took umbrage to China's interference in Australia political affairs, cyber attack and influence peddling of university".

Talk about re-writing history. The fact that Trump demanded a loyal lapdog got nothing to do with it.

And finally, the best bit is........ Yes, after all analysis, the best choice of action against an authitarian state is....... let's committ Harakiri. Lol
 

bajingan

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What a piece of journalist trash. I just loved the way it spin the worsening relationship squarely at China's door.

"The relationship got worse 3 years ago because of Turnbull government took umbrage to China's interference in Australia political affairs, cyber attack and influence peddling of university".

Talk about re-writing history. The fact that Trump demanded a loyal lapdog got nothing to do with it.

And finally, the best bit is........ Yes, after all analysis, the best choice of action against an authitarian state is....... let's committ Harakiri. Lol
Yup thats white supremacists mentality for you, they are too proud and unable to admit that they have made a colossal mistake in antagonizing China, thus they are doubling down in digging their own economic graves
 

sndef888

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Is anyone here familiar with the HSR network?

I noticed some cities have multiple HSR stations. How does that work? What if you need to change to another line?
Do you have to (example) leave Jinhua West station then take a cab to the Jinhua South station?

Why didn't they just build a mega station? Kind of feels like the centralisation would be more beneficial than the few kilometers of track saved
 

ansy1968

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What a piece of journalist trash. I just loved the way it spin the worsening relationship squarely at China's door.

"The relationship got worse 3 years ago because of Turnbull government took umbrage to China's interference in Australia political affairs, cyber attack and influence peddling of university".

Talk about re-writing history. The fact that Trump demanded a loyal lapdog got nothing to do with it.

And finally, the best bit is........ Yes, after all analysis, the best choice of action against an authitarian state is....... let's committ Harakiri. Lol
Hi Gatekeeper,

The economic situation is getting worse?(need emblem21 or other Aussie to confirm) had to blame somebody for this mess, the problem is the one you blame can hit back and hit back hard!!!, you reap what you sow , it shouldn't have to be this way. :rolleyes:
 

Gatekeeper

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Yup thats white supremacists mentality for you, they are too proud and unable to admit that they have made a colossal mistake in antagonizing China, thus they are doubling down in digging their own economic graves

They certainly are. The sad thing is they think they've got a big win because they've "hurt" China in the process of digging.

Hi Gatekeeper,

The economic situation is getting worse?(need emblem21 or other Aussie to confirm) had to blame somebody for this mess, the problem is the one you blame can hit back and hit back hard!!!, you reap what you sow , it shouldn't have to be this way. :rolleyes:

No, it didn't have to be this way. But it wasn't China's choosing. The choice was entirely the Aussies.

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emblem21

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Hi Gatekeeper,

The economic situation is getting worse?(need emblem21 or other Aussie to confirm) had to blame somebody for this mess, the problem is the one you blame can hit back and hit back hard!!!, you reap what you sow , it shouldn't have to be this way. :rolleyes:
Nope, all this is the fault of Scot Morrison following Trump like a dog and ultimately ended up as a Chinese dish so to speak in the long run. But still, nothing will change until the USA buzzes off and Australia finally has had enough of the stupidity and elects Scomo out although that may take a while and whatever deal that comes after will no go in the favor of OZ this time.
 

OppositeDay

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Looks like these fools started to entertain the idea of restricting iron ore sales to China
What will China do when they really restrict iron ore sales? when will China develop reliable alternative supply of iron ore? 62% of China iron ore came from australia
How long do you guys think iron ore mines in west africa will be fully operational?

Buy billets and slabs from someone else who in turn buys iron ore from Australia? That would certainly help China’s environment. Post-60s male workers are starting to retire, so China can finally let go some polluting and low margin industries. Contrary to the recent FT article, decreasing working population may actually help China as the people retiring are on average less educated than people entering the workforce.
 
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Tyler

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Yeah, that I know, but given the current situation I honestly wonder, does Australia have much of a hope in the future if there leadership is like Taiwan, without vision and without common sense anything can happen
Are they still exporting milk powder to China? Remember that sailors of type 071 were loading up with Australian milk powder.

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xiabonan

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Is anyone here familiar with the HSR network?

I noticed some cities have multiple HSR stations. How does that work? What if you need to change to another line?
Do you have to (example) leave Jinhua West station then take a cab to the Jinhua South station?

Why didn't they just build a mega station? Kind of feels like the centralisation would be more beneficial than the few kilometers of track saved
Different stations are usually well conneted by road, light-rail, subways, express buses and taxis.

The reason is quite simple why many cities have multiple stations. Before the age of HSR most cities had 1 or 2 rail stations. For example in my city Zhengzhou that would be the Zhengzhou Station. It is a major rail transit hub and located right in the city centre. However when HSR is built there came a problem, the station needs to expand to accommodate dedicated HSR railways but it's already at its limit when it comes to room for expansion as the surrounding land have all been developed. It would be extremely costly to tear down nearby builidings just to expand the railway station.

There was another prevalent problem, which was that the city itself was cramped and very crowded. It needs to grow and expand just like the station. So the solution to these two problems became rather obvious, to build a brand new, dedicated HSR station, far away from the city centre but located in an area close to the city that future development projects are concentrated in. Think of this not as building a second train station for one city, but a new station for a new city right beside the old city.

This solution solves multiple problems at once. First, design can start from scratch to make sure it is most state-of-the-art. Second, it allows HSR lines themselves to be off-centre as well, hence making land requisition much simpler, faster, and cheaper. Third, it provides a transport hub for the new development centre for the city. Fourth, it helps to feed growth to the new city centre, which in turn accelerates the new station's development. Fifth, it stimulates construction of connecting infrastructure, such as roads, light-rail, and subways. Sixth, it spreads out real-estate development as well, because new developments usually chase after such stations and along connecting subway stations. If the city is too concentrated, so will property prices. If transport hubs are more dispersed, then property prices will also be more evenly spread out.

In fact this model was so successful, that during the later stages of the HSR's development in China, many cities started to deliberately locate the new station to be off-centre, because the growth that it spurs is just enormous wherever it's located.

When this process repeats itself for nearby cities, what happens is that these cities, with their original city centres far away from each other, will gradually fuse together and become a continuous city group. This is most evident for cities in the Yangtze River delta (around Shanghai) and cities in the Pearl River delta (around Guangzhou, Shenzhen).
 

Orthan

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The doubters already here
I find it hard to believe that china can double its GDP in 15 years.

Looks like these fools started to entertain the idea of restricting iron ore sales to China
Australia wont stop selling iron or to china. They really need that export revenue.

Speaking of sino-australian relations, it appears that the australian government is starting to make signals for cooling down the anti-china rhetoric:
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