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Xizor

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海鸥 300 Noise Test in progress

Beginning on November 23, members of the research team of the Aviation Industry Flight Test Center came to Anyang one after another to carry out the airworthiness and noise test flight of the "Seagull" 300 aircraft. "Seagull" 300 is a multi-purpose light amphibious aircraft with my country's independent intellectual property rights. Although the aircraft is light, the task of airworthiness and noise test flight is heavy, because the research team has never carried out related work on propeller aircraft.

The "Seagull" 300 aircraft airworthiness noise test flight team came from the original crew of the C919 aircraft airworthiness noise test flight. This team experienced the 2013 ARJ21-700 aircraft airworthiness noise test flight.

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The Seagull 300 aircraft is a light amphibious aircraft jointly developed by AVIC Shijiazhuang Aircraft Industry Co., Ltd. and AVIC Special Aircraft Research Institute. The aircraft is designed with a single-pilot system and dual-control. It adopts a cantilever-type mid-upper wing, a cross-shaped tail, a high-mounted single-engine, a retractable landing gear at the first three points, and a hull layout. The independent intellectual property rights have filled the gap in the development and production of my country's light amphibious aircraft. The design and manufacturing meet the requirements of China Civil Aviation CCAR-23-R3.
The Seagull 300 has a short take-off and landing run. On land, it can take off and landing on simple runways such as cement and asphalt; on the water, it can take off and land on bays, rivers, lakes, reservoirs and other waters that are 800 meters in length, 50 meters in width, and 1.0 meters in depth, and clearance conditions permit. This machine is an ideal tool for fast and light operation and transportation on plains, water villages and remote mountainous areas with waters. Through simple modification, it can complete flight operations in tourism, teaching and training, sports and entertainment, agriculture and forestry operations, aerial surveys, aerial photography and other fields.
 

Xizor

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China Aviation Development and Safran Group held a 2021 strategic cooperation review video conference​

At the meeting, Li Fangyong and Anders reviewed the cooperation between the two parties in 2021.Despite the adverse effects of the epidemic, the cooperation between the two parties has remained smooth, the turboshaft-16 engine industrialization cooperation has made positive progress, the turboprop component joint ventures have accelerated their technological achievements, the engine test bed and other projects have proceeded.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Was rereading some old stuff elsewhere when I stumbled on something I hadn’t seen before. A 2012 and then reports in Flight global and Aviation week in 2015 and 2016 for a concept by Chengdu for a super mid Buisness jet called the CBJ-800 Pegasus.
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It was supposed to start actual work in 2016 2017 with a 7-8 year timeframe which when you consider now about to start 2022 means it should be emerging in the next 3 years unless it was canceled. But I can’t seem to find more modern info.
 

lcloo

Senior Member
Was rereading some old stuff elsewhere when I stumbled on something I hadn’t seen before. A 2012 and then reports in Flight global and Aviation week in 2015 and 2016 for a concept by Chengdu for a super mid Buisness jet called the CBJ-800 Pegasus.
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It was supposed to start actual work in 2016 2017 with a 7-8 year timeframe which when you consider now about to start 2022 means it should be emerging in the next 3 years unless it was canceled. But I can’t seem to find more modern info.
I don't think this is going to materialize. Unlike military air planes in China, commercial/civilian aircrafts need publicity and advertising in order to sell. The absence of this aircraft in display model in 2021 Zhuhai air show may indicate that the project has been stopped.

ARJ-21B business jet for 20 passengers has better sales prospect, but there is no buyer yet. It makes me wonder is there a viable market for private business jet in China market?
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
ARJ21 is significantly larger than the CBJ800 was described. As to if there is a market. A number of Chinese CEOs and government agencies have needs and already own a good number of Business jets.
 

Xizor

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AC311A Civilian Light Heli entered operations in Tibet

On December 17, the first "Plateau Elf" AC311A helicopter that the aviation industry went to Tibet for promotion and trial was successfully loaded and departed at Lumeng Airport of Changfei Company, Jingdezhen City, Jiangxi Province, and transferred to Lhasa, Tibet. AC311A became the first general aviation operation in Tibet A domestic helicopter.1639998410101.png
The AC311A aircraft delivered to Tibet this time can take off and land at the Gambara radar station at an altitude of 5,374 meters.

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Xizor

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Airplane assembling process is still the weakest part of China aviation industry

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No surprises there. Improving assembly need more orders. Or conversely, only with more orders can there be a need to improve the rate of assembly. If the demand is in single digits every year, why would there be any need to improve the rate of assembly ?

Then there is a slicing of pie that i observe in China's aircraft (and engine) manufacturing industry. The idea is not strengthening the capability of a single or select few entities but trying to build up fresh capabilities in a whole lot of enterprises distributed across the country. Civilian aviation aside, one can see that evident in how work is distributed to factories that aren't established players to build up a base. Priorities may be different.
 

KFX

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Large cabin private jets used to be a big business in China, but Xi Jinping's corruption crackdown from 2014 onwards hurt sales: it's not a great time for billionaires to be flaunting the bling. I understand that AVIC was very keen to develop CBJ, with detailed studies and customer outreach, but again this coincided with a changed market for private jets in China. For now I think the project is shelved. I'm sure it's been recorded in this forum already, but ARJ21 private jet version made an appearance at the last Zhuhai.
 

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