China's Westward One Belt One Road Strategy

delft

Brigadier
Sorry but the real reason for the US in Afghanistan is because the US is afraid the Taliban will eventually takeover Pakistan and thus they would have nukes.
I don't think even US take such a danger seriously. But Afghanistan with a coalition government with Taliban and without US forces would be connected to OBOR and become a major cross roads and an important source of minerals while US couldn't easily interfere in neighbouring countries. Reason enough to continue to fight Taliban.
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
I don't think even US take such a danger seriously. But Afghanistan with a coalition government with Taliban and without US forces would be connected to OBOR and become a major cross roads and an important source of minerals while US couldn't easily interfere in neighbouring countries. Reason enough to continue to fight Taliban.

There's only so much tax payers money the US can handle "fighting" the Taliban.
 

timepass

Brigadier
I don't think even US take such a danger seriously. But Afghanistan with a coalition government with Taliban and without US forces would be connected to OBOR and become a major cross roads and an important source of minerals while US couldn't easily interfere in neighbouring countries. Reason enough to continue to fight Taliban.

So basically, US administration wants to keep the region unstable at the maximum...
 

taxiya

Brigadier
Registered Member
I don't think even US take such a danger seriously. But Afghanistan with a coalition government with Taliban and without US forces would be connected to OBOR and become a major cross roads and an important source of minerals while US couldn't easily interfere in neighbouring countries. Reason enough to continue to fight Taliban.
yup, Taliban is the bogyman, just like NK or the Iranian nuclear issue, they all serve as the "reason" for US presence and relevance in the regions. We have seen this game played over and over again for the last decades.

Whenever there was a chance (such as NK agreement in the Clinton era, or the recent Iranian agreement at the end of Obama era), US will back step away from it and poke the other parties by massive drill and rouge designation by Bush in case of NK , or outright walking away from the agreement as in Iranian case by Trump, or new sanctions. If US sincerely want to solve the problem, why not stick to whatever its proceeding administration have agreed? Wouldn't that act being more convincing to China and Russia to "do more"? Without doing its own part, why would China or Russia do more? It is no surprising that Hua Chunying called US back stabbing recently.

What I see in the pattern of US leadership is that "I promise you something in order to squeeze more from you, if out of my expectation you actually agree to something, I will renegade my promise and demand more to squeeze even more." (dragging feet, another words Hua Chunying used). US will not stop doing it until the other parties' total destruction. So nothing much we can expect. It is a long lasting push and shove game until one side is weakened to the point of irrelevance in the area.

And think about it, even here there are so many members who do not regard NK and Iran, Syria etc. etc. has the sovereign right of existence because they hate countries not conforming to the western democracy. With that kind of attitude among the western population how could one expect the administration that they voted in to do anything accommodating?

In the same vein, this kind of attitude is equally true among the western mass about China, they do not act on it now only because China's strength, not because they don't want to. Given the chance when China is weakened or was weak (in 1990s after 64), the same designation (rouge, evil, failed etc.) will be put on China too. To some degree, against Chinese wishes, the cold war has never finished.
 

timepass

Brigadier
OBOR: Azerbaijan, Turkey, Georgia inaugurate newly built 826 Km Asia-Europe railway..

The railway line is also designed to become a key part of the southern route of the emerging New Silk Road network of trade and transport corridors between China and Europe.

BAKU, Oct. 30 (Xinhua) -- Top leaders of Azerbaijan, Turkey and Georgia opened on Monday a newly built railway line which connects the three countries in Azerbaijan's capital city of Baku, linking central Asia and Europe through the Caucasus region.

The opening of the 826-km Baku-Tbilisi-Kars railway line marks the conclusion of a 10-year project to open a rail corridor carrying cargo and passengers between the two continents.

The railway line, which includes 105 km of new track, will have the capacity to annually transport 1 million passengers and 6.5 million tons of freight at the initial stage.

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timepass

Brigadier
OBOR

China's belt and road infrastructure plan also includes science..

China’s plan to make massive investments in land and sea links with global trading partners also includes a little noticed commitment to support science and engineering, including the creation of dozens of new laboratories.

The belt and road initiative—originally announced in fall 2013 and officially dubbed the Silk Road Economic Belt and the 21st-Century Maritime Silk Road—is primarily an economic development program. Chinese President Xi Jinping's pet project, it is heavy on infrastructure—calling for new roads, railways, bridges, and ports—to recreate the overland and maritime trade routes that once led to China. Nearly 70 nations have agreed to cooperate in the plan, which aims to foster industrial development not only in the developing nations of Asia and Africa, but also in China's western provinces, which have yet to share in the economic prosperity of the country's coastal regions.

China is also planning to use the initiative to flex its scientific and engineering muscles, officials made clear at a 2-day Belt and Road Forum for International Cooperation that ended yesterday in Beijing. “Innovation is an important force powering development,” Xi said in a speech to the opening session of the forum. And so the initiative will include technical cooperation in fields including artificial intelligence, nanotechnology, quantum computing, and smart cities. He also mentioned the need to pursue economic growth that is in line with sustainable development goals, and that rests on environmentally friendly approaches.

A science and technology action plan calls for training 5000 foreign scientists, engineers, and managers over the next 5 years, as well as welcoming younger scientists to China on short-term research visits. (That pledge comes on top of a separate program that each year provides 10,000 scholarships to students from developing countries to study in China.) The initiative also calls for setting up 50 joint laboratories, though the research fields and other details are not yet specified. And Xi wants to create a big data service platform on environmental protection, and promises support for countries adapting to climate change.

The Beijing-based Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS) is on board with the effort. A year ago it formed a Digital Silk Road program that will bring together scientists from 40 countries to cooperate on space-based Earth observations that might help identify and manage natural resources, protect the environment, and prepare for and respond to disasters. And last fall, the academy organized an international symposium that pulled together 50 countries from along the trade routes to explore further opportunities for cooperation. CAS sees the belt and road effort as China “shouldering more international responsibility,” academy President Bai Chunli said in a statement prior to the summit.

So far, China has committed some $1 trillion to the belt and road initiative, which will unfold over many years.

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taxiya

Brigadier
Registered Member
I just hope when building new or upgrading existing railway lines, the former Soviet republics including Russia would switch to international gauge to save the time and cost of gauge change at either end of their boarders.
 
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