China's Space Program News Thread


taxiya

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Russia is playing a game. If Putin manage to extract a promise from Biden that the US and NATO will respect Russia’s primacy in the former Czarist sphere of influence, Russia will immediately drop collaboration with China in any field that makes the US nervous.

The main question is whether the US can admit to herself that she has been overplaying her hand with respect to Russia during the last 20 years, and her capacity to simultaneously contain both russian and china is weak.

Russia and Putin sees this, and wants to leverage the fact that in the long run Russia’s capacity to reduce American global influence is much less than those of the chinese. So it wants something from the US for not taking China’s side.
This is off topic for this thread, so I will just provide something for you to think.

Why give up something if one can have both? On the other hand if Russia can only get one or the other, why do you think US can offer any better than China? The supposed "Czarist sphere" is only eastern Europe, it is a peanut compared with the possible gain from the whole world by partnering with China. What the US could have offered to Russia might be just like the 80 vials of vaccine to Trinidad and Tobago of 1.4 million people.
 
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taxiya

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A large composite liquid oxygen storage tank has successfully passed engineering verification. The tank has a diameter of 3.35m and is developed by the 805th Institute of the 8th academy of CASC for future carrier rockets. The low temperature test subjected the tank to 110% (designed?) pressure, and it held.


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Seems that there are two groups competing for the same thing.
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It says in January 2021, 1st academy has also built a 3.5m composite LO tank.
 

weig2000

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Russia is playing a game. If Putin manage to extract a promise from Biden that the US and NATO will respect Russia’s primacy in the former Czarist sphere of influence, Russia will immediately drop collaboration with China in any field that makes the US nervous.

That's a very American perspective. Russia has a lot of good reasons to be on friendly terms with China: trade, investments, security being the largest neighbor with each other. Russia might tone down its anti-US rhetoric, but most of Russia's behaviors and activities in Europe and Middle East that the US/West feel objectionable have been out of its own interest, not out of any collaboration with China. Russia will always act as a great power, not subserviently to anyone including the US.

The main question is whether the US can admit to herself that she has been overplaying her hand with respect to Russia during the last 20 years, and her capacity to simultaneously contain both russian and china is weak.

That would be very un-American. Besides, if the Russia establishes a stable and cooperative relationship with Europe, American influence in Europe will wane further. It'll become even more difficult for the US to rally the European allies to contain and isolate China. China is not considered a geopolitical threat in Europe. America as an empire needs enemies to unite its clients and protectorates. This is true in Europe, as it is in Asia and Middle East.

Russia and Putin sees this, and wants to leverage the fact that in the long run Russia’s capacity to reduce American global influence is much less than those of the chinese. So it wants something from the US for not taking China’s side.

Russia wants a good relationship with the US and the West. That has never been any question about it. But Russia does not want to be treated as a second rate power or worse ("Saudi Arabia with nuclear weapons" etc.). Russia also does not want to sacrifice its own strategic relationship with China, which has its own logic. Demanding Russia to sacrifice its own relationship with another great power is treating it as another US allies/vassals. Russia is not going to accept it.

Americans of all sorts have been trying hard to figure out ways to drive wedges between Russia and China, with all kinds naive and laughable excuses, say Siberia, China's 4th aircraft carriers. But the root cause of all the problems lie in the fact that the US capacity to preserve its empire increasingly does not mesh well with reality. The solution is to reduce overreach, or change itself, not to travel around the world for a senile President with rhetoric and empty statements to create imaginary enemies and rally the increasingly unwilling coalition.
 
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Nutrient

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Russia is playing a game. If Putin manage to extract a promise from Biden that the US and NATO will respect Russia’s primacy in the former Czarist sphere of influence, Russia will immediately drop collaboration with China in any field that makes the US nervous. [Emphasis added.]

Yeah, like the promise to Russia that NATO would never expand eastwards? Remember that solemn promise by the US? The Americans tend to be somewhat forgetful about their legal obligations, and the Russians know this perfectly well.

Besides, what you propose isn't worth much, as Russia has Crimea already (mostly because the people of Crimea want to be in Russia).

Your desire to break the Russians from the Chinese is obvious. But next time make up a better lie.
 

anzha

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Yeah, like the promise to Russia that NATO would never expand eastwards? Remember that solemn promise by the US? The Americans tend to be somewhat forgetful about their legal obligations, and the Russians know this perfectly well.

Besides, what you propose isn't worth much, as Russia has Crimea already (mostly because the people of Crimea want to be in Russia).
lol.

Waaaaaaay off topic.
 

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