China's Space Program News Thread

[kentchang]

How? First is to land a person on the moon surface by 2024 as Trump has demanded.

Seriously though, this kind of article is very low quality, it only serves one purpose and one alone, to stoke up "China Threat". It provided no workable recommendations except recycling phrases such as "China is beating us", "China is going to eat our lunch"(Biden's own words few days ago), "We must be No. 1", "America will not accept to be No. 2" (Obama's own words).

This is because U.S. culture is zero-sum based. If you are not first, you lose. This is what you get when you teach kids competitive (winner/loser) sports at early age.

The silver lining is that when the U.S. is clearly lost, they accept and move on to something else. Examples: Steel and Japanese/German automobiles.

In Space, I don't see the U.S. rolling over until China has an operational moon base. China should refuse cooperation with Artemis signatories until they withdraw from it to avoid any legal issues.

 

[taxiya]

This is because U.S. culture is zero-sum based. If you are not first, you lose. This is what you get when you teach kids competitive (winner/loser) sports at early age.

The silver lining is that when the U.S. is clearly lost, they accept and move on to something else. Examples: Steel and Japanese/German automobiles.

In Space, I don't see the U.S. rolling over until China has an operational moon base. China should refuse cooperation with Artemis signatories until they withdraw from it to avoid any legal issues.

Have to agree with you on this one.

 

[Temstar]

Long March 5B Y2 will be loaded onto ships to head for Hainan soon, for Tianhe mission. Different ship this time instead of Yuanwang.



Check out that insulation. 土鳖不土，战斗力五

 

[Jiang ZeminFanboy]

Not better it would be if these rockets were built closer to Hainan? If I remember correctly they sail from Tianjin? Are there any plans to build an assembly/factory of rockets on Hainan island?

 

[taxiya]

Not better it would be if these rockets were built closer to Hainan? If I remember correctly they sail from Tianjin? Are there any plans to build an assembly/factory of rockets on Hainan island?

There are talks about some kind of assembly facility in Hainan, but only commercial purpose. Commercial in Chinese terminology means satellite owned by non-state entities. These are launches by maximum CZ-8 class. CZ-7, 5 and above won't be there, at least no talk about it.

Besides, there seems to be no intention of concentrating assembly and launch at any one place. Tianjin assembles the rocket, but they can be launched in Taiyuan, Jiuquan, Xichang and Hainan. Moving to Hainan would create new problems for the other sites. Having two assembly center would be wasteful because the limited number of launches.

Actually, no country is doing that. US also transfer their rockets through rail or road, so does Russia. It really isn't a problem at all because launch interval are months, transportation only takes 2 or 3 weeks.

 

[taxiya]

Long March 5B Y2 will be loaded onto ships to head for Hainan soon, for Tianhe mission. Different ship this time instead of Yuanwang.
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Check out that insulation. 土鳖不土，战斗力五

One of the many reasons that China does the same job by a fraction of what US would spend. Another example is the "warm cloth" that Chang'e 5 return vehicle wear after landing. I wonder what would NASA do if their reentry vehicle landed in Canada.

 

[kentchang]

There are talks about some kind of assembly facility in Hainan, but only commercial purpose. Commercial in Chinese terminology means satellite owned by non-state entities. These are launches by maximum CZ-8 class. CZ-7, 5 and above won't be there, at least no talk about it.

Besides, there seems to be no intention of concentrating assembly and launch at any one place. Tianjin assembles the rocket, but they can be launched in Taiyuan, Jiuquan, Xichang and Hainan. Moving to Hainan would create new problems for the other sites. Having two assembly center would be wasteful because the limited number of launches.

Actually, no country is doing that. US also transfer their rockets through rail or road, so does Russia. It really isn't a problem at all because launch interval are months, transportation only takes 2 or 3 weeks.

Tianjin is close to Beijing where most of the R&D are being done. When the factory was originally built, it already had 10m-wide components in mind. Its northern port/rail location is ideal. Aviation Week described it as the pivot point of an inverted 'L' connecting the Western launch sites and Hainan.

 

[OppositeDay]

Launcher technology is one of the few industries where the North still has an edge. Zero possibility politically for it to move south.

 

[vesicles]

This is because U.S. culture is zero-sum based. If you are not first, you lose. This is what you get when you teach kids competitive (winner/loser) sports at early age.

The silver lining is that when the U.S. is clearly lost, they accept and move on to something else. Examples: Steel and Japanese/German automobiles.

In Space, I don't see the U.S. rolling over until China has an operational moon base. China should refuse cooperation with Artemis signatories until they withdraw from it to avoid any legal issues.

Well, I’m not so sure about the competitive edge of kids in the States. When you get a huge shiny trophy by getting an eighth place in a spelling bee, it’s hard for kids to develop any kind of competitive edge... Back in high school, I got a nice looking “bronze” trophy for simply participating in a science fair. All I did was to draw some garbage on a little poster board. That was enough to get myself a trophy...

Those jocks who participate in competitive sports in schools usually don’t end up very successful when they grow up. It’s the “losers” and nerds who usually grow up to be Bill Gates’.

 

[RCBarbosa]

Hi!

Is there any images available of the other Tiangong modules apart from Tianhe-1?