China's Space Program News Thread


anzha

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China’s new solid rocket motor Kuaizhou-11 launch vehicle has failed on its first mission. China conducted the inaugural launch of the long-delayed Kuaizhou-11 (KZ-11) rocket at 04:17 UTC from the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center on Friday, carrying two satellites, before confirming the failure of the mission in the latter stages of flight, although specifics are not yet forthcoming.
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That really sucks.

Even small launches require an enormous amount of effort and it can be crushing when things go wrong.
 

hullopilllw

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China's actual privately run space launch companies: LandSpace, OneSpace, i-Space, LinkSpace. They need work and learning curves to develop. A few of these have developed some neat new rockets and engines with impressive specs and payload capacities. ExPace is just CASIC. If anything ExPace with their Kuaizhou should focus on building ASAT. Leave the commercial stuff for the hungry startups.
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Dante80

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Space is hard. KZ-11 is a very valuable asset for both CASIC and China itself, since it is one of the main paths to rapid replenishment of space assets, something that may become very valuable in the decades to come.

They will get this right the next time. The only way to fail is to stop trying.
 

ougoah

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Europe, Canada, and Japan are basically extensions of US policy. It's just a facade of cooperation. Why would Russia join lol? Any independent space program would be far better off avoiding such a group where they'd be "outnumbered" and "outvoted" at every important decision. If cooperation is desired or required, then of course Russia would rather bunk up with China and vice versa. At least each would have equal say and mutual respect. At the same time, China's space program has certainly more funding if not equal or already superior capabilities now.
 

ougoah

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Any possibility of these recent failures a result of foreign sabotage?
Slippery conspiracy. Not worth discussing because the relevant people will of course look into everything in careful reviews of failure, more for learning than looking for saboteurs. No one here will know and it'll just welcome lot's of rubbish speculation and theories.

The chance for failure of a new platform has always been high in the USSR, Russia, USA too. But these new launch platforms in recent months have all been failing at least partially in later stages. This is disappointing. I'm sure this month's Mars mission will also be a failure. Mars missions around the world have around a 50% failure rate and China is attempting the most difficult combination - orbiter, lander, and rover in one single project and all on its first attempt. The Chinese Mars orbiter that blew up on the Russian rocket doesn't quite count since it was not exactly in control on the situation but I give this current mission lower than 50% chance of success. Still you gotta start somewhere and have everything there to fail and learn from why they failed. Maybe a second attempt will have better chances and progressively better.
 

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