China's SCS Strategy Thread


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jimmyjames30x30

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ansy1968 said:
Hi jimmyjames30x30,

Do you think the British will go in bed with Indians:cool:.... hehehe like B.I.B had mention even with a 90 year old beauty Queen the Indian will not let it pass.....;););).
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In my opinion, I think the only reason the Indians took an dignified and con-compliant stance to wooing by the West (especially Britain and the USA) before now, is because the Indians had great confidence in USSR and Russia. India-USSR(Russia) bond was very strong, this gave the Indians the backings that allowed them to afford being "arrogant" and "haughty" towards the West. But I guess today's India is losing faith in Russia's ability or intent to back up India. This puts India in a place where they will need to find a new "Big-Brother". Right now it is pretty obvious that the USA is India's desired "Big-Brother". If the UK want to distance herself from the Mainland Europe, and stick closer to the US, the UK could try to be "help" India for the US, this could take of some weight and resources the US would much rather save for other things.
 
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ansy1968

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jimmyjames30x30 said:
In my opinion, I think the only reason the Indians took an dignified and con-compliant stance to wooing by the West (especially Britain and the USA) before now, is because the Indians had great confidence in USSR and Russia. India-USSR(Russia) bond was very strong, this gave the Indians the backings that allowed them to afford being "arrogant" and "haughty" towards the West. But I guess today's India is losing faith in Russia's ability or intent to back up India. This puts India in a place where they will need to find a new "Big-Brother". Right now it is pretty obvious that the USA is India's desired "Big-Brother". If the UK want to distance herself from the Mainland Europe, and stick closer to the US, the UK could try to be "help" India for the US, this could take of some weight and resources the US would much rather save for other things.
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Hi jimmyjames30x30,

My take, the Indian had put themselves in a big hole, that they seek HELP from anybody to extricate. Look at the way Modi deal with Xi, there is no bravado and you can sense the fear. It really dawn on him the might of China and as you put it " This puts India in a place where they will need to find a new "Big-Brother"." and the ironic part is only China had the means to help her.

I must say that Pakistan had played its card well, It's has China, the US and Russia on his good side and all are supplying her with weapons.
 
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sndef888 said:
I think China should stage a welcome party for them, unfurl banners proclaiming "Welcome to China" as they sail past the spratleys
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Hi sndef888,

Hehehe a good one, but they should be careful and not invite them ashore. That's how the Philippine lost one of her island from Vietnam, They invited themselves for a drink with some women partying all night, got drunk the next day BOOM!!! surprise surprise Vietnam had occupied the whole island :confused::confused::confused: , yup we are a fool to trust them.:mad::mad::mad:
 
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Wow, sink all Chinese ships in SCS within 72 hours!?
Pretty tough talk.


Contrary to most what most people think that involved US carriers versus Chinese Antiship ballistic missiles, if conflict breaks out, US most likely would deploy B1B bomber against Chinese surface ships.

How to neutralize and defend against B1B is much more pertinent. The bomber has a huge payload, long range and fast.

IN/OUT hitman role.
 
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Wow, sink all Chinese ships in SCS within 72 hours!?
Pretty tough talk.


Contrary to most what most people think that involved US carriers versus Chinese Antiship ballistic missiles, if conflict breaks out, US most likely would deploy B1B bomber against Chinese surface ships.

How to neutralize and defend against B1B is much more pertinent. The bomber has a huge payload, long range and fast.

IN/OUT hitman role.
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B1B has reduced RCS, but is by no stretch of the imagination could it be considered stealthy. That means the Chinese will see those coming from a long way off, and can easily send fighters to give time a suitable welcome long before they can threaten a PLAN main fleet.

Besides, as of now, the US does not have AShMs to unduly worry China.

The biggest threat to the PLAN from the USN would be its SSN fleet. But even that advantage is massively blunted in the SCS. Shallow waters in many areas create natural choke points, limiting subs’ freedom of movement and make them easy to spot from the air.

China’s SCS islands also present unsinkable carriers from which China’s large and rapidly growing MPA sub hunters and drone fleets could operate from.

USN subs might pose a genuine threat to the PLAN in the SCS, but that threat is both ways, and subs need to get close to launch a successful torpedoe attack. That makes it a near suicide mission for them to try.

This sort of nonsense is sadly typical of western politicians who seem to think they live in a Tom Clancy wet dream and have little understanding of the actual real world capabilities and limitations of the US military against near-peer opponents like China.
 
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SCS sea is big, and B1B is fast China may not able to intercept that plane fast enough. Most of times it would be Chinese surface ships encountering US forces first and foremost. Would a 052D spot a B1B first or B1B spot the ship first? I think this is important.
 
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